One point that DDR didn't attribute to the cantilever or v-brake point was the fact that you should be able to ride faster. When I took out the fully unsuspended trek a few months ago I beat the guys down the hill. Usually I don't. The reason is that I kept up much more speed since the freaking brakes didn't stop/slow me the way the disks do. Of course the trail was a nice even/smooth single track. So I'm dropping the gauntlet right now. If I ever go to euroland to race DH, I'll put cantis on my rig just so i can ride faster. still going to use FS though.
When I was shopping for my last bike, coming from v-brakes I thought that hydraulic discs were overkill, having never ran them But now when flying downhill and coming across some HOLY SH*T moments. I'm damn glad they are there
Enter a downhill section of super skecty S/T after crossing 12 inches of wet sandy creek and then tell me your V-brakes rock just as good as disk.:wave:
Stupid original post. Shouldn't have gotten all the attention it already has. Unfortunately, this kind of elitist BS is all too common. I, for one, don't need to hear your smug and totally antiquated opinions.
...hey- were just having a little fun here.... Who pissed in your cheerio's? You forgot to click the *sarcasm* icon. Or not. Don't like it? Dont clik on the topic...or, tell the mods ta : BAN ME.
what, the "brakes slow progress" argument? edit: the oregon/Washington/canaduh/we-ride-when-it's-raining argument for discs does apply- bogging thru stuff that gets organic mud and much up past the nipples on your wheels and v-brakes don't work. discs are required.
Well, once in awhile I feel like going oldschool and pull out the hardtail (it helps maintain my line choice skilz), but it has v-brakes....man, after riding and braking with disks you tend to get used to hitting the bakes a little softer and a lot later...this does cause unintentional puckering when riding v-brakes going down some fast, gnar $hit and realizing your not using disks. If my hardtail had disk tabs, and I had some extra cash I would definatly put disks on it.
Awsome post,could not be any truer. If half of your ride is pushing or ridding in a pick up then whats the point of building a monster truck bike. Ouch, Hit a nerve did it now?
Discs rock and suspension is toatally a matter of choice, I have a HT and FS and love 'em both. What urks me though is the way the bike industry forces us to ride the way they see the sport going. Unless we can pony up like 3 or 4 grand we have to buy a bike that is usually a compromise in some manner or another. What's sad is that a majority of new riders get sucked into a bike that really doesn't work for them or the trails they ride. I know that I got caught in that rut for a while. Great topic and some awesome responses, I love a good debate!
This is the technical reason for oversized bars. Generally: Larger diameter = stiffer. This is the same reason many aluminum bikes have huge downtubes.
I got to admit I didn't read all the posts so forgive me if someone else already pointed this out, but I think this is just a fun way to get some pro's and con's going over preffered riding. No one's going to get flamed so lets hear whatever anyone has to say on the subjects. Discs...love em, but that's cause I like to not have tired hands at the end of the ride. V-Brakes, still have them on most my bikes, they work, but not very well for long rides. Suspension, well I couldn't ride without it. Believe me I've tried. I still have metal pins holding one wrist together. I've had 7 total broken wrists. Suspension is not an option for me, it's a necessity. Bars, I don't care as long as they're carbon and strong.
