The Horse can stand to shed some pounds

Discussion in 'The Workshop' started by northshore, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. dubjay

    dubjay Having upgraditis is OK

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    Wheels were not that cheap.

    Let's see...

    Stans Flow x2 @ $75 each
    Hope Pro II Hubs @ $265 for the pair
    Sapim CX-Ray x64 @ $2 each.
    Alloy nipples x64 - I don't know..like $5?

    Like $550? Not including the beers I drank while building them :drunk:
     
  2. Dino Brown

    Dino Brown Sir Smack-Alot

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    First of all- you must decide on the intended purpose of the bike. If you want a weight-weenie bike- go light! I say the best thing to do is: shave off some weight (and plenty of rolling resistance) by upgrading the wheelset! Done!

    Confused about the pedals though. Your bike should have been delivered with SMARTY pedals.

    The bike should weigh 30.8 pounds! Mr. Epic is absolutely correct: Any lighter and you lose trail worthiness!

    With regard to tires, I use a 2.3 High Roller up front.... Ignitor in the back. Lovin' it!

    You could always lose 2 pounds. Won't cost you a thing!
     
  3. houseofmusic

    houseofmusic Preman Hater

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    how heavy is your horse anyway? it can't be more than 31lbs??? eh?
     
  4. northshore

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    Agreed. Less rotating mass the better.

    I tip in at about 200lbs but Dino will tell you I'm lying. :lol:

    :eek: well, I sold my race car....hmmmm HAHAHAHAHHA dang it!
     
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    houseofmusic Preman Hater

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    if the bike is at 30.8 pounds like what Dino said, then I would just get lighter wheelset and be done with it.

    30lbs AM bike is really is not a heavy bike.
     
  6. northshore

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    Dino! Intended purpose is an all around A.M. bike to throw around. I'm not looking to be the super weight weenie but something lighter would be nice. I can really feel that weight in climbing. #-oYes, it did come with Smarties but I sold them to El Dood in S.D. I didn't really liked how they felt on my fat feet either.
     
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    ODB Team Sting-Ray

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    Titanium V-brakes--or better yet, cantilevers--instead of discs
    One-piece carbon fiber bar/stem combo
    Mythos 1.9 tires
    Purple anodized cranks, seatpost and headset (everyone knows purple ano is lighter) :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:


    Honestly, I don't see why you'd want to lighten that bike. The weight is likely right where it should be for its intended purpose. Enjoy it for what it is, i say.
     
  8. Dino Brown

    Dino Brown Sir Smack-Alot

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    Northshore- You are NOT feeling the weight of the bike! What you are feeling (in my opinion) are the wheels and (High Roller) tires! My bike started out at 28 pounds! Tried to make it faster (2.4 Mutano's up front/ various fast tires on back). Noticeably quicker in every way! Trouble is I needed MAXIMUM traction. Decided High Roller's front and rear were the way to go. Slow as molasses. Found (MY) perfect combo with 2.3 High Roller's up front/2.3 Ignitor's on the back!

    What I am trying to say is: try a (lightweight) tire combo with less rolling resistance FIRST! If that is not enough, a quick wheelset will do the trick!
     
  9. gooseaholic

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    I have never owned a bike that was less than thirty lbs. I will never understand the big fuss on weight. Just pedal damn it.:lol:
     
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    I was recently researching platforms. The lightest, but not necessarily the lowest profile, were the MG1s from wellgo. 378g. they can be had for under $50 and come in more colors than a clown's dick.

    I had once switched bikes with a more conditioned rider mid climb. my mkiii for his spec fsrxc. I beat him to the top. Even non rotational mass affects your climbs, at least from my experience.
     
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    I saw some kind of "rotational mass" that had something to do with a guy on a Iron Horse cartwheeling down a rocky hill last week:wave:

    Oh...and I can vouge for the Wellgo MG-1's...super light, and tough :)
     
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    Crossmax Enduro Wheels

    Here are some wheels at a good price, front wheel just $70, centerlock adopter at Jenson for $18 if you need it

    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?...=&pagename=Shop by Subcat: MTB Wheels - Front

    http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?...d=&pagename=Shop by Subcat: MTB Wheels - Rear

    Check out the specs on the Sette parts at price point, they are often lighter than the big brands, I've got nothing but good things to say about there stuff.

    I have Easton Monkey lite carbon bars that have done me well, had them for at least 3 years, crashed a few times. I inspect them often no sign of cracking or damage.
    http://www.pricepoint.com/subList-22-Sette-Products.htm

    I got an Easton Havoc Wheelset super cheep & those wheels rock too
     
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    no no. that's rotational ass.:)
     
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    Oh...my mistake....lead donkey:)
     
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    Just so you can put those numbers to actual use

    100g = 3.5 ozs
    200g = 7 ozs
    400g = 14.1 ozs
    500g = 17.6 ozs = 1.1 lb
    1650g = 3.63 lbs
    1750g = 3.85 lbs
    2000g = 4.4 lbs
     
  16. Shu

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    Pedal efficiency has a lot to do w/ it also...lose all the weight you want but if your bike bobs you aren't efficient which means you're slow...not necessarily heavy
     
  17. FyrFytrRyn

    FyrFytrRyn RTB to a WNL

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    easy, drill holes in everything, including the chain. several holes! helium in tubes (or even if tubeless). ditch the grips, brakes, and all shifting equipment and go to a single speed set up. take all the padding off the seat to bare plastic and sand the plastic smooth. cut seatpost off 1mm after insertion into frame. cut bars 4" on eachside. above all, make sure you know im kidding. :lol:
     
  18. northshore

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    I'm going the cheapest route first. Dino's recommendation on tires and then pedals. Dino, correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Maxxis high rollers a modified version of DH tires? They seem heavy! I do see some deals on the Ignitors though!
     
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    Absolutely, but that was kinda out the window on this one cuz I have about 50lbs. on the guy. His bike was much more spongy with my 190lb butt on it.
     
  20. Dino Brown

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    *** I own Wellgo MG1's. AMAZING pedals! 376g/pair, pins stick to shoes, smacked them on rocks- never a single problem!
    *** The High Roller's are weighty, tacky and provide superior traction! Not exactly what YOU are looking for. Go with a lower rolling resistance 2.1 (more XC) or 2.3 (AM).
    *** I believe the PATH "may" still have the buy one get one free TIRE coupon... Good way to experiment on the cheap! Ask Tani's opinion regarding tires.

    *** If you really want to experiment: Stop by PERFORMANCE BIKES. They regularly have 2.4 Muntano's on sale for $19.99! They also have the super light and super efficient MYTHOS (XC) tires on sale for $14.99 everyday! Not the greatest traction in the world. I guarantee you will notice a difference in pedaling efficiency though!!!

    PM me if you have any questions!
     

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