Push tune that Fox Float CTD Evolution or Bike Co Marz TST Air **Rear shock**

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  1. oldschoolpl510

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    I had the same problem on my Remedy with the DRCV fox shock. I had to run the pressure a little high so it could take bigger hits. This made it too stiff in the rock gardens. I eventually switched to a coil dhx which fixed the problem (although pedaling suffered a bit). Flash forward a couple of months, Push comes out with the volume spacers for the DRCV. I immediately ordered the kit and tested it out. It was amazing! It still wasn't as plush as the coil, but still a night and day improvement. I only wish they released the kit before I spend so much money on a coil. So try out the volume spacers on the CTD because they do offer a big change for little money.
     
  2. von

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    Im glad I asked before I dropped the cash b/c the spacer clearly is the most efficient solution. When in doubt WWSTRD.
     
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    Ok so I got the space and will be putting it in tonight. Im going to put in the medium ring and try it from there.

    I currently have a fox float
    Velocity tune: L
    Rebound tune: M
    Boost valve:200

    I weigh 130 and find it harsh. It is also bottoming out.

    Any advice on which spacer I should try first?
     
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    Hard to say just guessing as there as so many variables. If you can drop the pressure by 15-20 pounds and still get 30% sag, I think youre in a good starting position. That will soften it up quite a bit. Use sag and pressure to guesstimate where youre going.
     
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    K cool I'll give it a try.

    Thanks
     
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    double post
     
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    Quick update


    Well I'm not sure if its the shock but the spacer did nothing. I'm using the same psi for the same sag.

    Lol oh well.
     
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    Sag will not change for same air pressure. However the shock will ramp up more. So you can run less air pressure without bottoming out.
     
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    Right I wasn't expecting difference in sag with the same pressure but rather I was hoping to run lower pressure to achieve the same sag. Perhaps m mistaken. Thanks for the tip. I put in the largest spacer hoping for a larger effect. I should probably put in the medium.


    Again thanks for the tip!
     
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    Are you following the fox instructions when checking sag and setting pressure? They have you adjust the rebound and the boost valve one the shock I have. I actually used the iPhone app, it gave you starting point pressure and what to adjust before setting sag.
     
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    The app has never worked for me.

    I followed the setup guide that fox has on their website. Unless I'm missing something....
     
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    Von, don't pay too much attention to the numbers, they are here for a "starting point" only. Go ride the hell out of your current setup in your favorite trails and "feel" the differences, and then adjust your settings accordingly. Don't look at the hard numbers, everyone's style and riding terrains are different.
     
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    Well make sure you in descend mode and open the rebound all the way up based in the instructions in the app. I don't think that is part of the website instructions.
     
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    Yep i just went to jpl today. Im still trying to dial the settings in
     
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    If by open all they way you mean fastest rebound then yes. I also have it in descend mode too.
     
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    Ok so I did more riding and tuning today. Its definitely less harsh as I have leas air in it. The sag % is higher but it didnt bottom out. Thanks Bing! for suggesting a much cheaper alternative。
     
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    bvader Long Live The Gorn!

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    so Von you been riding for a week or so... any comments?

    Also confirming this was on a 2013 Fox Float CTD
     
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    Yes it is a 2013 float evolution.

    I was waiting for my ride at snow summit this Sunday before the update.

    As of now I'd like to say that I can run lower pressure without the fear of bottoming out. Overall it is plusher . However, I am still trying to tune it for better small bump compliance. I feel that there are instances where it feels harsh with slight chatter . Particularly over small stuff. On the bigger rocks it feels much better than before.

    What I really want to see is whether the higher air pressure resulted in my getting thrown forward during jumps, or if it was bad technique. I'll have to wait until I get up to bear.:)
     
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    You can use rebound to reduce the occurrence of rear kickback. But that would be a crutch solution. What you want to do is to load the suspension as you hit the ramp. Easier said than done. I was trying to learn this for months, I took a lesson, and it still took me 3 more months to say that I can hit jumpS without fear of kick back, no matter what the rebound is set at. Best way is to go to bike parks. Sneaking in skill development on trail rides makes for slow progress. You can session if it's convenient to you.

    After, you need to learn how to set down the front wheel for landing on a down slope, like the backside of a table top. I'm almost there, but not perfect just yet. So as I get the skills down, I intend to get me some good air and a few tail whips in between.

    Im old, I learn slow.

    Oh, a summer of park riding has made me a better trail rider. I can bring more momentum through featured descents that let me cruise up the following ascents without even pedalling :) love it.
     
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    Young at heart is where it counts!

    Yeah I kinda figured it'll be more of a technique issue more than anything. I'll try to remember all the cools tips you folks have given me.
     

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