for those of you with healthcare through work

With the sweeping changes Obama is bringing to Health Care, politics is a very big part of Health Care today. It's hard to seperate the two.


...dont ban me. ;-)

 

I never said it made us better off. It makes us not Greece. What devaluation would do is boost exports and make imports more expensive. Not an option for Greece.

Market forces for healthcare are inadequate for an efficient solution because of the nature of the good. That's my point. As I heard this guy say once, "I'm as free market a guy as you can find, and even I can see the problem with healthcare costs when the doctors are the ones driving the demand."

You want the health insurance market to work, like it does for car insurance? Easy solution. Just start writing sick people off like you do wrecked cars. Y'know...death panels.

 

What blows my mind is how the population is entirely against health care rationing, without realizing that health insurance providers (read: guy in a blue suit whose bonus depends entirely on company profits) have been rationing health care for years in the form of denying treatment and ceasing coverage.

 

I still think the crazy old people on Medicare who can't stomach the idea of single-payer take the cake.

 

Ask your employer to opt out.

111 already have. McDonald's for one.

Complete list at HHS, covering 1,175,411 enrollees.

http://www.hhs.gov/ociio/regulations/approved_applications_for_waiver.html

 

I read a good one on FB a year or so ago. Some guy was wondering why the government couldn't come up with something like Tricare for the general population.

Huh.

 

health care costs will have to be controlled, which will surely require having Medicare and Medicaid decide what they’re willing to pay for — not really death panels, of course, but consideration of medical effectiveness and, at some point, how much we’re willing to spend for extreme care

Paul Kugman NY, Times
The Conscience of a Liberal

 

How ObamaCare Guts Medicare

The president's pledge that 'If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep it' clearly does not apply to America's seniors.

WSJ SEPTEMBER 9, 2010

 

Good. I want Medicare abolished totally. Let old people pay for insurance at the same rates as the rest of us. Risk adjusted for age, of course.

All of a sudden you're a proponent for socialized medicine? :clap:

 

Not sudden at all, it's after paying taxes for 44 years. Taxes that reached 2.9% of income.
If I could be reimbursed for the opportunity cost, sure - abolish Medicare.

 

Socialism for me and not for thee, then.

At least you're consistent :lol: