Crank Brothers Ti spindles are not for SS use

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  1. MohammedInABearSuit

    MohammedInABearSuit Sticks and Stones...

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    Gift from the wife ;)

    I've also stripped fixie cogs riding uphill ;)
    Only broken a couple o' chains...

    No issues in the end. I'm getting a new 'Cross frame later in the year and I'll move the sweet 4Ti ones onto that bike.
    already ordered a set of short spindle CB SLs...

    Funny. I just built a 1x9 rigid does that count? it only weighs 20 lbs :bang:
     
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    If anyone wants to unload their Ti pedals I'd be more than happy to take 'em off your hands!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D
     
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    I agree that a rigid SS should be putting more stress on the pedals. However, I can also say that while I've been using the Ti spindles on the same bike I've had to replace due to bending or cracking the steel fork, frame, stem faceplate, cranks and rims. None of those parts had a stated weight limit. :?:
     
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    Well, duh, have you SEEN how you ride!?!??! ;)
     
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    Like a delicate princess? :-s :?: :-k :wave:
     
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    You've put it on the internet so the knowledge will be world-wide. :lol: CB has to be pondering how to warn customers or issue a recall. If anyone less than 185 pounds is injured (on an SS) a lawsuit is in the future.
     
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    I wasnt inferring you were "joe blow ti pedal guy". I was stating that people who buy or use 4ti CB pedals usually mean business like yourself...

    or are just posers which I see plenty of as well. Not many people are going to buy that expensive a pedal unless they are looking for an edge or have money and want to be perceived as "cool".

    Another thing about the ti pedals is they are not mountain bike specific ...they could be used on road bike (rigid), bmx (rigid), cx bike(rigid), track bike(rigid) etc... a weight limit is a weight limit and should be the limit for any bike they go on. Their shouldnt be a disclaimer that says:

    "these are for 185lb or less riders, riding full suspension bikes, whom never get out of the saddle or attempt steep climbs. If any of the above terms are violated all implied warranties are void...but we will fix them free"

    PS not only can i lend a hand in the engineering department CB's, I could help in the legal department as well.
     
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    MohammedInABearSuit Sticks and Stones...

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    No offense taken ;) Never been offended in my life.
     
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    Hell Ive ridden with you and greg...I know you guys dont mess around.

    As for CB...they were good with my pedals when i sent them in for springs.
     
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    The word from Crankbrothers

    Almost a month ago I emailed CB and asked about SS'ing. After a wait {hourglass symbol} I got my answer.

    Hello,

    Thank you for your e-mail.
    I would not say that it isn't for SS bikes, but the TI spindles will break if you are over the weight limit.

    Thanks,
    Crankbrothers

    Anka Martin [[email protected]]
     
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    Funny. I'm waay under the weight limit (like 35 lbs)... they were pretty clear that if I was SS'ing that the stainless steel spindles were recommended.

    I really wish they would stand up and tell the community one way or another...
     
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    I couldn't disagree more with your point! On a normal geared MTB, even an extreme grade can just be (and usually is) ridden in a much lower gear than most SS riders run.

    If you find a hill where you're really going to have to mash that hard in granny gear, you're not going to get up it anyway, at least not on a man-powered machine.

    To ignore or argue the fact that people exert more force on SS bike pedals is, well, just ignorant.
     
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    Thanks for nothing ..

    "If you find a hill where you're really going to have to mash that hard in granny gear, you're not going to get up it anyway, ..."

    Not every geared rider gives up when the going gets tough. Some will stand and pull on the handlebar for maximum force. At that point it doesn't matter whether the drivetrain is geared or SS. The force on the pedals depends on the weight and muscles (arm pull) of the rider. When you stall, you stall, regardless of the drive train.
     
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    On top of what Abui says...not all geared riders use the granny ring or even have one on their bike...my next will not.

    Give it hell no matter what you are on...
     
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    Again???

    Well.... 363 days later....
    [​IMG]

    I had just stopped carrying the extra set of pedals (which BTW everyone thought was funny) and was pedaling the 'Cross bike up Main Divide between 4 corners and Joplin and wham! Really sucked because I had to make the choice of Joplin on 1 pedal or back out Harding and walk up Modjeska to meet the crew at Cook's.

    Gonna be interesting to hear what CB says this time.

    I'm no Clyde, and the 'Cross bike isn't really taking as much abuse as your average MTB. I've already replaced the pedals on the Social bike with short stainless steel spindles.

    I'm really beginning to wonder if the 4Ti isn't simply a poor design and a product liability lawsuit waiting to happen??

    Imagine skewering your leg with this:
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    These seem to always break at the same place:
    [​IMG]
     
  18. dubjay

    dubjay Having upgraditis is OK

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    OUCH! So just curious - What did you decide to do?

    And I just put one & one together. I think I spoke to you at Cook's on Saturday morning. Were you the one that I had a belt drive discussion with?
     
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    Pho'dUp Spam Musubi MasherSS

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    Hey Mark that sucks. But really I don't feel that sorry for you. You've broken a pair before. And chose to run them on a long ride again.

    Yes, CB has been vague about the durability of these 4Ti pedals. And if they don't repair them for you that sucks.

    But as far as getting your ride cut short or walking Respectfully, that's your fault. Stainless steel eggbeaters are still lighter than most pedals out there. I would have just run those and had piece of mind.
     
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    Definitely agree on that one. Thought I'd give 'em one more chance.

    Problem is when you spend several hundred dollars on a product you kinda expect more of them. I've already converted all my others over to stainless spindles. If CB has determined these are not a durable product, they should really say so on the packaging. I'm under their 185# limit and there is absolutely no other disclaimer. Time for CB to own up to the failure rate on these items. It is not acceptable for folks to say: "They are lightweight so you shouldn't expect them to last".

    I am going to have CB swap out these for a set with a stainless spindle this time. Hey, at least I can carry my 4Tis as spares ;) Lighter in the pack.
     

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