Yet another airlift on Ladera Ridge

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  1. melster

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    Hey guess what? Another airlift going on right now. I heard the helo, and I knew exactly where to look. Someone else is seriously injured because I listened to my wife and let it be.
     
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    Is there a video of the infamous ladera hump yet? It does look like a fun stretch of trail.
     
  3. Falconer

    Falconer Who are you? who who

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    No, someone was injured because they rode beyond their ability . It had absolutely nothing to do with you.
    You can not save riders from themselves.
    If you make a big thing about it the trail will be closed.
     
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    i wonder how the helo crew feels about the notorious hump (which happens to be my porn name). they have to risk their lives every month out there, regardless of who/what is to blame.

    also, i'll bet you wouldn't be so callous about this if it was your friend, wife, or mom getting wrecked on it. a little empathy goes a long way. that hump is probably the most poorly designed "feature" in southern california...the trail's gonna get closed anyway if this keeps happening.
     
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    This place is sounding more attractive to ride after hearing about additional bad crashes...

    I love trails that allow me to test my mortality..
     
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    I was at one of 'events' there one night. I rode up firehose from the firestation with some first responders. They know that spot pretty well. On this particular occasion, the fallen rider could walk, and the first responders helped him down the hill.

    I'm sorry to hear of additional injuries up there, but to me it's rider beware in any scenario like this, and I would hate to see it leveled. I think we all know, this sport involves skills, judgement and risk, (amoung other traits), let's not advocate the distruction of the any of parts that make so much fun.

    Keep it the way it is.
     
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    Maybe then just need to build a convenient hospital right there, you know kinda like the loop:lol::lol:
     
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    No. Someone else just learned to ride within their abilities.

    Does anyone have any stats on the rest of the parks? I'd be willing to bet that Rockit, Lynx, even the Fully Loop has a much higher casualty rate than what we're seeing on this insignificant little stretch of trail.

    Going back through my logs I can see that I've ridden that trail 70+ times over the last 4 years and somehow, miraculously I have managed to survive the "Bump of the Devil" each and every time (Personally, I liked it better before they chopped it down.).

    Maybe people should stop using this as a trail to take their beginner friends on and just stick to Tijeras Creek until they get a little more experience (or at least learn how to use their brakes).
     
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    I am reading this thread on my phone, it seems that the bump is between 4 and 5 on my keyboard....:lol:

    I know of 3 person who hurt themselves on this. I have to say that they lowered the top of it, it helped but it is still risky if you come too fast. The bump is not too bad, it is just that it has a flat landing (actually slight uphill). If you take some air, the landing will hurt you.
     
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    Dont get too excited its a fun trail and all but not very technical or anything....its just that one hump lol
     
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    Anyone have a garmin stat for this thing? i wanna go ride it.
     
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    All the smart ass comments about riding within your limits are ridiculous considering this "feature". Nobody would build a trail that has a nice long smooth downhill then a tree or hole in the middle and tell all the people who hit the tree or hole to ride within your limits. The hump is ridiculous, is not a jump, is not a natural part of the trail and certainly wont impact someone’s idea of an "I’m so bad ass I can ride Ladera ridge without wiping out" status. Think of it as if someone wanted to build a 3 foot table top on a bike path - that’s all it is.
     
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    ouch.. I wonder if there have been any collisions, going up that is pretty blind.
     
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    Saying that mountain bikers should ride within their limits is not "a smart ass comment" it's a little thing called
    common sense. So if it was a horse or a bunch of kids at the bottom of your nice smooth downhill it is
    their fault when you or your inexperienced buddies plow into them ?
    I have seen plenty of trails with trees right in the middle of them . One of my favorite trails in
    Vacaville has a V shaped tree with two trunks and a dirt jump right before it if you over estimate your abilities
    or are not paying attention there is a high price to be paid.
    Please do not come down here and ride Vail Lake because there are numerous trails with humps and table tops
    and if you are not Riding within your abilities or paying attention you will get slammed.
    There is no such thing as an "evil feature" on a trail. From what has been posted it appears the land owner placed
    the hump there to try and keep motorized vehicles off the trail. Keep complaining about it or even worst try and
    do something about it and you will probably get a fence and a no trespassing sign .
    When I crash I do not blame the rock or rut I hit I always blame myself.
    Why?........Because it was my own fault!
     
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    Sorry but I don't see any warning to ride within your limits as being smart ass, it's just wisdom being passed on to newer riders who obviously aren't being taught that essential skill by their buddies who seem to be taking them out and throwing them to wolves on trails they aren't ready for (even if it is just one ten foot section of that trail).

    As far as a tree or hole in the trail, I think I would probably be able to figure out how to ride around the tree and then bunny hop the hole. That or I would stop and HAB around any obstacle that I couldn't ride. I do this all the time on new trails (It only took me two collarbones to figure out that it's a good idea to look before you leap).

    That "hump" was placed there by the landowner long before any of us started riding that trail. I remember when it was much higher and way more treacherous than it is now and was pretty pissed when it was chopped down to its current height.

    Here's how I see it, do whatever you want in the parks. Groom the trails, cut the roots out, pave the place for all I care but leave the rest of the trails alone. That small minority of riders who CANT ride these trails don't have the right to dictate to the rest of us how difficult the trails outside the parks should be. Can't ride something, either keep trying until you can or go ride something else. Don't ruin the trail for everyone else.

    And all you guys taking your buddies out on their first MTB ride, show a little common sense. You know that if you bomb down some trail you've done a thousand times, your buddy is going to do his best to try and keep up and in the process get in over his head. Do you really think Fully takes out so many riders because it's hard? No, it's because some knucklehead takes his friend out and rides the DH sections at his usual pace and then his buddy, in a testosterone fueled state tries to follow and ends up in the ER.
     
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    Wait its not a jump, but a 3 ft table top?
     
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    I see a lack of compassion and empathy in some of the statements on this thread. It is easy to lose sight of the fact that the reason why YOU may not be affected by this feature is because YOU have years of experience, and/or had a conscientious mountain biking mentor. Not everyone has the same luxury.

    As far as saying "Someone else just learned to ride within their abilities", what an elitist a-hole comment. That's like saying your mom who broke her hip tripping on the stairs "just learned not to f* with gravity".
     
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    I'm not saying there is any legal requirement to do so, but if I were the property owner and I knew people were getting hurt by something I deliberately did to the trail I would want to put a sign far enough down the trial to warn people. It is just the right thing to do. If the trail was illegal and there were "no trespassing" signs than I might not have a warning sign but I don't think the trail is illegal or we wouldn't be talking about it on STR.

    Common sense comes from experience and the people who think the riders who get hurt deserve to get hurt are missing the point.

    Has anyone tried sending a friendly letter (not a threatening or complaining letter) to the land owners offering to pay for a sign if they install it?
     

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