Sand Baggers

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  1. whybother

    whybother New Member

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    NO!!! i have not turned into a full fledged roadie! Cat1 = Expert XC and DH (they changed the mtb classifications this year)

    i don't know how long i will be sidelined, but i think 'ol 1 arm is going go be out at fontucky this saturday :)
     
  2. Abui

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    Injured? :?:
     
  3. whybother

    whybother New Member

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    looks like i tore my rotator cuff on saturday. going for an MRI today. Dr says, "If it looks like I think it will, game over, you go to surgery."
     
  4. Zippy

    Zippy Small, but Mighty

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    Suck! When did this happen? You didn't mention a crash and it didn't look like you were hurting. :?:
     
  5. denmother

    denmother Gone riding....

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    Sorry to hear that my little cub!!! Been there, done that, however mine took 20 years of abuse before the tear was bad enough to have it repaired!!!

    No, that would be broken bike rider on hiatus!!! :lol:
     
  6. Bullcrew

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    Heres Kyle from Transition hitting the course.
    http://www.pinkbike.com/video/2990/

    Its a blast I smoked my class by almost 40 seconds and didnt do 2nd run due to back spasms, I broke my T7 3 months earlier on a stair gap so I had maybe a month back on the bike and no real exercise.
    Either way this course is a blast especially at speed.

    BTW: Sorry to hear about the injury in the posts above, heal quick!:beer:
     
  7. CA_descender

    CA_descender IamHAZZMATTseeMEgroove

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    He could also change his avatar to this one

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    and here is his trophy ..


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    But it's all good, the 'baggers just make some of us slow riders work harder :beer:
     
  8. Bullcrew

    Bullcrew New Member

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    Thats funny, dig the sandbag!
     
  9. BFloFoxRider.

    BFloFoxRider. Active Member

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    changed my avatar for ya'll
    I will move up if they let me keep my points, otherwise, i am staying and finishing off the season here in beginner. :wave:
     
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    Healing Vibes your way. Will it affect your pit crewing ability for Allison too, or can you still wrench?
     
  11. johnny_coffin

    johnny_coffin Ride To The Hills

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    my view on the whole matter:
    i signed up at race #1 for 19-26 beg. thinking it would be cook and i would do some what ok. i did a few practice runs and after fallowing some of the riders in that class i went and switched to the 200+club. its funny after finishing the race i wanted to see what the results of the 19-26 beg class was and it was redickulous .... the 1-3rd place times would have split the time in sport . it was almost a full min in fron of the winning time in the 200+club. I was fully warned that the 19-26 beg class was FULL of s.bags for the guys like me that are new to dh or just still at the beg. level it makes racing no fun at all. im sure we all like winning but it sucks so many people s. bag just to podium.
     
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    ^reason why i will probably never race DH in fontucky for more than one race
     
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    Is it really that bad?
     
  14. mfoga

    mfoga Intense Whore

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    I get that there are a lot of sandbaggers, but don'tet it stop you from racing, its more about having fun. And not everyone is a sandbagger, a number of people once they know they should move up do.
     
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    It happens in every sport..It really isn't gonna stop me, nor should it stop anyone from enjoying something that they love doing..
     
  16. mfoga

    mfoga Intense Whore

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    I would say in most classes the top guys could move up.
     
  17. live_in_hilo@yahoo.com

    [email protected] hilo boi

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    just get out there and try it. you know you want too. never know, you might be a sandbagger as well. lol.
     
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    denmother Gone riding....

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    Sandbagging USAC style

    So, in light of the "Sandbagging" issue, I decided to email the CEO of USAC to see what his take is.....Here is the email thread (newest first).

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    "Lusk, Kelli" <[email protected]>
    To: Nancy Harris
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:33:18 AM
    Subject: RE: New Results & Rankings Program Introduced for 2009 Racing Season

    Much of the monitoring falls upon the local promoter and/or USAC official at the event. We currently do not have a national-based system to monitor riders using one-days. We are aware of the sandbagging issue and are working on a way to collect the one-day license information so a system can be put in place in the future.

    Best Regards,

    Kelli Lusk
    USA Cycling, Inc.
    Mountain Bike Events and Program Director
    1 Olympic Plaza
    Colorado Springs, CO 80909
    719.866.4668
    fax: 719.866.4628
    [email protected]
    www.usacycling.org

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    From: Nancy Harris
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:27 PM
    To: Lusk, Kelli
    Subject: Re: New Results & Rankings Program Introduced for 2009 Racing Season

    Kelli,

    Thank you so much for the information. I was wondering if there is any sort of monitoring going on at this point as I know of many folks who are not doing enough racing to warrant a yearly license so they are purchasing 1 day licenses so they can continue to race. Most of them used to race Expert and of course are getting 1 day licenses to race in the Sport class. This unfortunately makes the whole idea of sandbagging worse than it used to be.

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    From: "Lusk, Kelli" <[email protected]>
    To: Nancy Harris
    Cc: "Brunelli, Andrea" <[email protected]>
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:10:25 AM
    Subject: FW: New Results & Rankings Program Introduced for 2009 Racing Season

    Nancy –

    There is a formal process for downgrading. The upgrading and downgrading procedures are outlined in the 2009 USAC Rulebook, posted on the officials page of the USAC website.
    http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=369

    Per the rules, riders cannot move between categories. Once they have raced as an Expert (or now Category 1), they must race there unless they submit a downgrade request through their USAC online membership account. Riders must provide valid reasons for downgrading in order for it to be approved.

    Best Regards,

    Kelli Lusk
    USA Cycling, Inc.
    Mountain Bike Events and Program Director
    1 Olympic Plaza
    Colorado Springs, CO 80909
    719.866.4668
    fax: 719.866.4628
    [email protected]
    www.usacycling.org

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    From: Nancy Harris
    Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:46 AM
    To: From the CEO of USA Cycling
    Subject: Re: New Results & Rankings Program Introduced for 2009 Racing Season

    Dear Mr. Johnson,

    Thank you for making the changes to the ranking system, being a female racer and having less than 3 people in a class has always been an issue.

    However, there is another issue that also needs to be revisited. Based on the fact that you allow 1 day licesnses for Beginner and Sport Downhill riders, there are many riders who used to race in the Expert class who no longer want to pay for a yearly license so they sign up for Sport instead. There has always been alot of sandbagging going on, but now it is getting ridiculous. Didn't there used to be an actual formal process for downgrading your racing level?

    Thank you,

    Nancy Harris
     
  19. DownHillPhil

    DownHillPhil Team Rider

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    Dangit BFLO get your brothers to race the right class!
     
  20. BFloFoxRider.

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    so they're basically saying tough stuff?
    lol
     

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