Sand Baggers

Discussion in 'Racing and Training' started by DirtymikeTDB, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. MohammedInABearSuit

    MohammedInABearSuit Sticks and Stones...

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,566
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    As a 47 year old racing against 25 year olds (CX, not DH) heck it DOES make sense. The Single speed category is typically "open". I'll never win, but one of the advantages is that you DO get to smile at the young pups as you pass once in a while. 8-[

    Although I do see plenty of sandbagging at the races. Perhaps something like a golf handicap system would work?? Then again, I race for fun, not to win and maybe sandbagging and winning is more fun for some folks?
     
  2. denmother

    denmother Gone riding....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2007
    Messages:
    11,235
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    Riverside
    That would be "former DH racer" sir!!!!!:lol::lol::lol:
     
  3. Reedster

    Reedster Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2007
    Messages:
    1,224
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    Teacher
    Location:
    Apple Valley
    I'd be very surprised if you were able to be on the podium in Cat2 and couldn't hang with the Cat1's. Heck, aren't most races cat1/2 anyway? When I was racing it was my observation that most people who were able to podium in one category were able to move up to the next category without any real problems.

    So, is that where you have been, on the road? I've been tempted to try it again, but not tempted enough to actually do it.

    ~R
     
  4. BFloFoxRider.

    BFloFoxRider. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    4,846
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Army
    Location:
    Claremont
    therefore i cansh the season off in beginner? :wave:
    i've only podiumed twice :lol:
     
  5. mfoga

    mfoga Intense Whore

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2008
    Messages:
    8,147
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Depends what you consider the season. If you mean Winter Series yeah.
     
  6. GeorgiaOfTheJungle

    GeorgiaOfTheJungle THE Penultimate Mtb'er

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2006
    Messages:
    4,233
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Huntington Beach, Ca
    Mountain biking has changed from Expert/Sport/blah blah blah to Cat 1/2/3 (Expert/Sport/Beginner). For men, this is a difficult transition because the Semi-Pros have to decide whether they are Cat 1 or Pro (sense any sandbagging there?)
     
  7. papisimo11

    papisimo11 I Support Darwin

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2007
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    West LA
    Sandbagging is killing the racing scene.
    If you've been riding for more than 2-3years on mtn bike trails, then you aren't a beginner, period. You may not finish top 3 but why does everyone have to win? Is this racing or AYSO?
    Unfortunately everyone races for different reasons: for fun, to win, to win the series, etc...so it is really hard to gauge where your efforts stand.
    Mtn biking comes with great comradarie and has that "take it to the max" attitude/mantra(much like my beloved skateboarding), shouldn't that be on the race course too?
    Learning to race, that should learned at your expense, not at others. You'd be surprised at how fast some guys/gals get after sticking out a whole season. They aren't even the same rider. My first expert season the winner was getting me by 11 minutes, by the end, 1 or 2, the next, he was chasing me.
    And it really isn't hard to see where you are at before a race. Just go ride with some others, and that'll give some indications of fitness levels.
    just my .02. tired of the sandbagging....
     
  8. BFloFoxRider.

    BFloFoxRider. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    4,846
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Army
    Location:
    Claremont
    me and Denmother shook that i would move up. but if i lose my points, heck no techno.
    i'l race all 5 that i need for the points, and the 6th that i can throw out, i'll register in sport as a nonmember under my brothers name or something :wave:
    i'll register as dino brown :lol:
     
  9. BFloFoxRider.

    BFloFoxRider. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    4,846
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Army
    Location:
    Claremont
    i came from desert moto riding, and have now been rding mountain bikes for about 2 years. i dont consider my skills beginner by any means, but my race times say otherwise. it took my 2 seasons to even get a top 15 finish in beginner, and now i finaly won a race.


    iTS racing. AYSO has no winners or losers, you play for the fun of it. If thats the case, it may be best to save the frustration, and just go for downhill trail rides wit your buddies, and race each other down, with a mass start.

    Racing is not fo everyone. its very time and money consuming, and stressful most of the time.
    my $0.02
     
  10. denmother

    denmother Gone riding....

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2007
    Messages:
    11,235
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    Riverside
    Brandon, go ahead and finish out the Winter Series in Beginner, and then reevaluate, no sense losing points and the Winter Series title!!! However, if you want the jersey, you'll have to stay in Beginner all year!!!
     
  11. BFloFoxRider.

    BFloFoxRider. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2007
    Messages:
    4,846
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Army
    Location:
    Claremont
    maybe i can crash one race, just so i can prove i dont do well in them all. :lol:
    i emailed donny last week, and still no reply.
    i may end up just staying :?:
     
  12. papisimo11

    papisimo11 I Support Darwin

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2007
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    West LA
    Congrats to you and winning your race. It sounds like you worked for it. I didn't realize the beginner class was so deep and competitive these days. 15 deep, dang, the old expert group never got that big.
    iTS racing. AYSO has no winners or losers, you play for the fun of it. If thats the case, it may be best to save the frustration, and just go for downhill trail rides wit your buddies, and race each other down, with a mass start.
    That sounds like fun too!
    No one is forcing you to race, so don't complain about paying.
    I guess it comes back to my point: we all do it for different reasons. Never raced beginner, never came close to winning sport(3 podiums in 4 years), but moving up made me push myself to do things that were previously unimaginable in expert.
    Good luck at your next race! Hope you win!:lol:
    paz afuera
     
  13. Bullcrew

    Bullcrew New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2008
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    San diego
    Home Page:
    Back March 14th and yes I pedal now! :beer:
    Way too much open (XC) area here you have to earn it! Learned you can actually puke if you pedal too much as well as feel like your lungs are not working! Been real exciting! I have a new found respect for super D and XC guys/Gals!
     
  14. gr@sshopper

    gr@sshopper Closet Roadie

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2008
    Messages:
    314
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Claremont
    Yeah, pansy downhill doesn't seem as pansy when you are passing out from pedaling so hard.
     
  15. Steven Jackson

    Steven Jackson My loop, my rules!

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2005
    Messages:
    623
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Pizza Maker/Delivery Driver
    Location:
    Fullerton
    Home Page:
    I race beginnur so I dont embarruss the pro ridurs.
     
  16. Bullcrew

    Bullcrew New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2008
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Self
    Location:
    San diego
    Home Page:
    LMAO! Yeah when your hammering down hard on a DH bike it definently works the lung burn!
    EHHH, Either way its still a good venue and alot of good people!:beer:

    Heres the first race I ever did! They have 3 this time around at Beacon. Its a freeride DH race 8' straight step up, 12'+ rock waterfall, doubles and alot of skills needed.
    http://www.truveo.com/Beacon-Blowout-07/id/3099790247
     
  17. Franky

    Franky DHShuttleMonkey

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,687
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Bflo if you win Winter Series your trophy should be a bag of sand.
     
  18. Adrian

    Adrian foesnasty no more....

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2007
    Messages:
    1,057
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Altadena

    that course was GNAR!!!!! that step up looked crazy!!!





    and bflo is a bagger of sand!!!!!!
     
  19. whybother

    whybother New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    Messages:
    753
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Haha! Unfortunately today I get to find out how long you can change that title to "former bike rider". #-o:-s:mad::protest:](*,)
     
  20. Zippy

    Zippy Small, but Mighty

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2007
    Messages:
    1,372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Endurance Coach
    Location:
    La Jolla
    Home Page:
    Uh-oh. Did you break yourself? :(
     

Share This Page

Help keep STR alive, please click the donation button below