Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham on New-Earth Creationism

lots of drawings.......and some extinct bird thing? They find complete fossils of other things, why not the transitionary?....They do not exist.

 

Lack of a fossil does not mean an organism didnt exist. Fossilization is a very rare phenomenon requiring a narrow range of conditions. Most skeletoms do not fossilize.

 

Lotsa great stuff on here. Just woke up from my middle of the night drive and have to get to things. But the debate is exhilarating and appreciate all inputs. Later.

 

True. You can't also argue a point due to lack of evidence. As a matter of fact, if one looks into the Canadian and Chinese finds discussed earlier, what it tells us is the fossil evidence is there, just that it does not explain the sudden emergence of ALL current major phyla without ancestors to evolve from.

 

This pic I missed, have to find out more .... looks like must of had problems with depression or something and eventually died out

 

There is plenty of evidence to show Jesus exists...

 

I don't think anyone was debating that. The existence of Jesus really has nothing to do with the fossil record.

 

Fossils yes, Evolutionary, Transitionary examples where?

 

I know this will go round and round but the mere existence of someone named "Jesus" doesn't equate to proof of creationism.

 

The entire fossil record is an example of transitionary species.

What you are asking for are are essentially examples of prototypes vs the fixed end model - something akin to the design of a new car model, where there is a clear developmental design and then a clear end model. Evolution doesn't work that way in that there is no set end model. Every organism exists as a point along an evolutionary spectrum.

Think of it this way: Imagine we were alive in the Miocene, say 15 million years ago. The horses that existed at a that time were small, and their hooves consisted of three toes rather than the modern single toe. Were we having this discussion then, from your standpoint that would be arguing that the small three-toed horse is the end model of horse evolution. Today, due entirely to the fossil record, we see that species as what you would call a "transitional species"; it is a point along that spectrum of species evolution to the present.

 

My whole point is, that is what you believe, (by faith) because there is no proof. The transitionary ones was it for a day or 2 and left....why no fossils

 

Because fossilization is a exceedingly rare and complex process, that's why.

Let's re-frame this: what would you consider to be a 'transitionary species'? You keep saying that but I'm not sure we're trying to define the same thing.

 

let's pick man...find me an example of one.

 

Why not read up on it yourself instead of trolling?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil

 

who said i was driving? hahaha​

 

I'm still unclear on what the definition of a Transitionary Species is? I think another example of evolution that might be easier to see is to consider the relationship between bacteria and antibiotics and phenomenon of resistance development.

 

Using Lucy as an example, there is debate even among scientists. Bones not all found same time, different locations, and only brown pieces are fossils, the rest they made themselves. There is no general agreement on Lucy.

 

I legitimately cannot tell if this is a joke or not.

 

advanced Life on earth came from extraterrestrial aliens "seeding" our planet. They chose this rock because it has ( and the way humans are f'in it up, it'll soon be Had) the right conditions.

As likely as any theory IMO. And more likely than some I've heard.