Better of the 2 bikes for So. Cal. terrain? Help sway me!
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I forgot to mention I have had a Knolly, a 2010 Delirium and the bike was a blast. I also recently demoed a alloy Range. Thing is, the Delirium was too small for me and that bike was not used to pedal all day, down hill it was the best I have had. The Range demo went sour because the ground was too wet/muddy the other day... @ von, I think I will be sticking with my 36 for now, not saying I will never switch but I like a burly 20mm fork and the Push tune helps. The axle to crown on my 36 was almost identical to the 27.5 "specific" Pike (fish fork) I had.
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What do you mean by fish fork?
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Pike is a type of fish! :lol:
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NORCO, NORCO, NORCO... Have ridden Norco, just don't have the $$ to buy (either for that matter). Wish we had a dealer in the area for demos - know there is a new shop in Yorba Linda that has the Norco's on the floor. If I had my way, hubby would be on a burly built Range.
That said I LOVE Knolly too, but YOU really NEED to pedal both to satisfy the mental torment in your head, you're the one having to pedal. Both bikes are great and would suit any need just fine.
P.S. Don't listen to Chris, he's a fanboy bandwagon jumper ; )
That said I LOVE Knolly too, but YOU really NEED to pedal both to satisfy the mental torment in your head, you're the one having to pedal. Both bikes are great and would suit any need just fine.
P.S. Don't listen to Chris, he's a fanboy bandwagon jumper ; )
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Haha, great reply! What shop in Yorba? I had to drive to Dana Point (Cycleogical) to get a Norco demo, great shop.
Theres a shop called Fenix Cycling:
23681 La Palma Ave
Yorba Linda
714 692 2502
I know they will be getting a heap of 2014 norcos and alot of the CB ones.
Ask for Oz he is the owner of the shop. Really cool guy.
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For climbing and trail the Norco, but for chunk, park and DH, I would lean towards the Knolly 4x4 suspension. That is a tough call and you really can't loose too much all around performance on either bike. I like the components on the Norco better and the Pike is dialed. I know you have your heart set on only these two bikes, but I would also try to demo the Rocky Mountain Altitude 27.5 Rally Edition, Transition Bandit 27.5 and Banshee Spitfire 27.5 just to compare the rides before making your final decision. I hear Canfield is also rolling out a new 27.5 full suspension bike sometime in 2014.
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Thanks von! El cap, I currently have a 27.5 Rune, great bike but I have had it for plenty long & this may be my only opportunity to switch bikes for a few years. Yes I have narrowed it down to these two. Also the components on either bike don't matter as I am going frame only.
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I concur with 2/3rds of that jab - indeed, don't listen to me and Fanboy, yes. But Bandwagon? Hardly. If that's the case, I'd be on a Bronson or an Ibis with 1x11. Obscure Aluminum 26ers with 2x10 are definitely not bandwagon.
My first post outside of my introduction thread. 
Anyhow, riding aside, I'd go with the Knolly. It just seems more DIY friendly and more versatile. The cables/hoses are run on the exterior, so you don't have to fish them through the frame. Also, the frame geometry looks like you can really slam that rear seat down for more control and confidence ever you should need it. Those two features alone would sway me toward the Knolly over the Norco.
Anyhow, riding aside, I'd go with the Knolly. It just seems more DIY friendly and more versatile. The cables/hoses are run on the exterior, so you don't have to fish them through the frame. Also, the frame geometry looks like you can really slam that rear seat down for more control and confidence ever you should need it. Those two features alone would sway me toward the Knolly over the Norco.
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Seat tube length on the Warden is 476mm and the Range is actually shorter at 470mm, both large frames. I find for me going downhill, I don't like the seat fully slammed, there is a sweet spot where I like to use my inner thighs with the seat for control. You will notice many pro DH riders do the same.
I don't like the seat fully slammed for general downhill either, especially when I'm going fast, and tend to squeeze the seat between my thighs too. The only times I like to slam the seat all the way down includes, but is not limited to, technical obstacles going downhill, drops, and jumps where it's more about balance than stability. Pretty much anything where I have to bend a lot more at the knees to absorbing impact or really get my center of gravity low.
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So far I'm leaning towards the Range. It would be mind blowing to have a 160mm beast at -28lbs and add a shock like my current Float-X or the new climb assist DBAir and you have a lightweight AM rig you can pedal all day. The Knolly would be close behind in weight, maybe not as great a pedaling bike!? I think I will see if a local shop has a Chilco for rent! For now, off to ride my Rune @ Turnbull...
I think an upgraded range could really do some damage. I stopped weighing my bike past 30 lol. And im thinking of getting a 36 van to slap on it !
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Guys with Rockshock reverb you can drop your seat to what ever height you want! There isn't a need for straight seat tubes anymore with the invention of dropper posts.........unless you still manually drop a post on a 6k bike. Don't they all come with a dropper post now and days?
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Here is a pic of the lower build Range. The frame has less color and a mount for a front der., the higher builds do not as they are 1x specific. $3800 as a complete is a serious bargain for a carbon frame bike. Love the lines & complete internal cable routing!
