2009 Fontana City National/Kenda Cup West/Rock Shox Golden State Downhill #1

4X format

What format are they going to use in 4x at Fontana?
I come from BMX were you run 3 heats of total points and the low point guy is the winner.
Or we use the transfer system. If you win or finish in the top two (depending on how many riders are in your class) you go straight to a semi or main event.

Any help would be great

Jason

 

just signed up, sport XC, sounds like a hell of a deal!!

 

I wish we could say but it has been different at every race this year.


Ideally its 12 and second move one. I know they have been trying to make it different as many people got sick of paying for one run. I would say that most likely it will be top 2 move on unless they have some odd number where that wont work. They have used motos but thats for small classes like 4 or less.

 

Top 2 in each moto advance to the next round.

 

That's kind of an odd choice ... guess I can't carpool with my friends who race Cat 2.

 

Its basically Pro/Cat 1 on Sunday with the exception of 4x.

 

Updated schedule

Here's an updated schedule with all of the races included!


FONTANA CITY NATIONAL- March 27-29, 2009

Friday March 27

10:00 am – 5:00 pm Downhill/4x Registration and Packet
Pick-up
3:00pm -6:00 pm Cross-country Registration and Packet
Pick-up
11:30 am – 2:30 pm Pro / Expert Downhill practice
3:00 pm – 5:00 pm Sport / Beginner Downhill practice
4:30 pm – 6:00 pm 4 X practice all categories

Saturday March 28

6:30 am – 4:00 pm Registration and Packet Pick-up
7:30 am – 11:00 am Sport / Beginner Downhill practice
8:30 am – 10:00 am Pro / Expert 4 X practice
10:00 am --Pro / Expert 4 X Qualifying
11:00 am -Cat 2 / Cat 3 Cross-country
11:45 am- Sport / Beginner Downhill Final
1:15 pm- FREE Krista Park Q&A riding clinic @ grass area across from parking
lot/tech area. Contact Krista to RSVP- [email protected]
2:00 pm- FREE Kids Race
2:00 pm – 4:00 pm Pro / Expert Downhill practice
2:00 pm – 3:00 pm Sport / Beginner 4 X practice
2:00 pm – 3:30 pm Super D practice all categories
2:30pm- FREE Andy and Sam Schultz junior and kids riding clinic @ Kenda
Trailer. Bike Q&A with Team Kenda/Tomac rider Andy Schultz, and Gary Fisher/Subaru Sam Schultz.
3:00 pm -Sport / Beginner 4 X qualifying
4:00 pm- Super D Final
4:00 pm – 5:00 pm 4 X practice all categories
5:15 pm- 4 X Final all categories

Sunday March 29-PRO XCT TOUR PRESENTED BY Sho-Air
7:00 am – 11:00 am- Registration and Packet Pick-up
8:30 am -Cat 1 Cross-Country
7:30 am – 10:30 am Pro / Expert Downhill practice
10:45 am- Expert Downhill Final
10:45 am-JUST FOR FUN RIDE, Hosted by MTB Legend Ned Overend
11:30 am -Women’s PRO XCT race presented by Sho-Air.
12:00 pm-3:00pm-In N Out Hamburger XC/Gravity Pre Registered Rider Feed.
12:15 pm- Pro Women Downhill Final
12:45 pm- Pro Men Downhill Final
1:30 pm -Jason Britton No Limit Stunt Show @ parking lot Cul de Sac
2:15 pm- Men’s PRO XCT race presented by Sho-Air

 

racing saturday will be interesting for sure.

 

Just registered! Thanks Scott

 

What tires and sizes are most guys running in 4x?

 

It varies. The course has a lot of rocks and can be loose in spots. I am running a 2.2 Telonix in front and a Small block eight 2.1 in the rear.

 

I am only going by what Donny has on his entry form. If you have any questions, I would email him directly (and please post the answer).

Per Mike Hecker the DH & 4x at the Santa Ynez Valley US Mt. Bike Cup race will require a USAC license. However his other races do not! You can check out his scheule here http://www.ridesb.com/. He is having his own race the week before Sea Otter.

 

I know you dont know the answer. I was more of a rhetorical question. It just the more I look at the schedule and pricing its just looks more and more that beginners and sport classes are second citizens. They get 5.5 hours of practice time where Pro/Expert gets 8 hours, making everyone pay for 3 days of shuttle when we can only use two of the days.

I would email him but I know I wont get a response. I have NEVER got a single response to any email I have ever sent.

 

Ok, then I will send the email!!

However, don't forget that this is also round #1 of the Rock Shox Golden State Downhill series!! It doesn't say if it is best 3 of 4 so I will ask him that question also!

 

First you'll have to qualify to race. So, one rider at a time will shoot down the track to try and get the best times. Here's out it breaks down:

2 fastest against the 2 slowest, top 2 moving on in the race, the other two become spectators of what I consider the greatest discipline in MTB racing.

So, if #1 rider qualifed 1st, #2 rider qualifed 2nd (you get the picture) the race might look like:



1 2
2 7
7
8

3
4 4
5 6
6

I would really like to see us adpot a 3 moto run with run off's for ties, then we move into the semi and finals which would really give the riders more track time for the money, but who am I?

As for the tires, these are always, like BMX, a personal preference. If you're smooth, light, and fairly experienced, go for the 1.9-2.0 tire with a small knob tire in the rear and something with a bit of bit for the front. The smaller tires will let you whip up some speed, but beware of rocks. I use larger volume 2.25 front and rear with a near semi-slick in the back. The larger volume tires give you a little extra cussion against rocks, drops, and bonks.

Hope to see you at the track!!!!:drunk:

 

It's more than likely been said time and time againt, but it bears repeating:

DENMOTHER is the POOOOOP!!!! YEAH! For all the information and energy you drum up for the races, I really think SHO-Air should hook Denmother up with a little something something extra. Like, since for no fault of her own, she can't hit the race at Fontucky, a chair with her name on it and a cooler of drinks.

Actually, why wait. Nancy, PM me with your favorite drinks. I'll load a cooler for your day at the races for being the awesome race chick you are.

:beer:

 

Thanks

He knows you and seems to answer you really fast.

 

The updated schedule says 4 laps for Cat 1 men ages 17-49. Also the start times have been moved again, 8:00, then 9:00, now 8:30.

 

Start times are listed here: http://www.teambigbear.com/forms/09_fontana_start_times.pdf

8:30:00 AM 4 CAT 1 MEN 19-24 4

8:30:00 AM 5 CAT 1 MEN 25-29 4
8:32:00 AM 6 CAT 1 MEN 30-34 4
8:34:00 AM 7 CAT 1 MEN 35-39 4
8:36:00 AM 8 CAT 1 MEN 40-44 4
8:38:00 AM 9 CAT 1 MEN 45-49 4
8:40:00 AM 63 PRO SINGLE SPEED 4
8:40:00 AM 62 CAT 1 SINGLE SPEED 4
8:40:00 AM 2 CAT 1 MEN 17-18 4
8:40:00 AM 3 CAT 1 MEN 15-16 3
8:42:00 AM 10 CAT 1 MEN 50-54 3
8:42:00 AM 11 CAT 1 MEN 55-59 3
8:42:00 AM 12 CAT 1 MEN 60-64 3
8:42:00 AM 13 CAT 1 MEN 65+ 3
8:44:00 AM 42 CAT 1 WOMEN 19-29 3
8:44:00 AM 43 CAT 1 WOMEN 30-39 3
8:44:00 AM 41 CAT 1 WOMEN 15-18 2
8:44:00 AM 44 CAT 1 WOMEN 40-49 2
8:44:00 AM 45 CAT 1 WOMEN 50+ 2​

 

Thanks for the help Bob & Den Mother!
Wow a one lap qualifiying thats new, I have never seen that before in 4x or bmx.
Thats fine that works for me.

Jason