Thanks for the birthday wishes! Dave and I are thinking about going this Sunday to the fully loop, but it depends on how we feel in the morning. All my family is coming over Saturday for my mom's birthday party. Ya her birthday is the 5th. haha. Anyways, if we don't get out there this sunday then we'll try to aim for the next one. Ohh and he showed me the loop...man i would have died! i didn't think it was that long with that many hills. HAHA. But i still want to try it or at least take a short cut. HAHA anyways, thanks a bunch!