Test Ride: 2010 Specialized Epic 29

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jordansrealm, Aug 23, 2009.

  1. Jordansrealm

    Jordansrealm New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Photographer/Editor
    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
    Home Page:
    Thought I would share this from my blog...



    I spotted this bike at a local bike shop a few weeks ago and after hinting enough about the possibility of purchasing one when they come out, I was handed it for an afternoon. Frequent flyers of this website may remember THIS post I did a few weeks back talking about all of it’s bells and whistles. This bike has perked my interest for several reasons which include; 29-inch wheels of course, the tried and true Epic geometry and Specialized’s FSR suspension using the Flow Control Mini Brain. I decided to hit my local trail this morning (Tijeras Creek) to test the Epic because it offers varying types of terrain and I am familiar with every bump and turn.


    The frame and fork on this bike were given to the shop to use as a test unit for various riders/shop employees. The build on it is not something that will be offered in stores. So, I am not going to elaborate on how the Juicy brakes or XT cranks performed. The bike is a 17.5 or typically what most 29ers would be considered in medium. At 6′ tall, I was unsure if the bike would fit me. I normally ride medium size 29ers but this bike felt a bit small in the cockpit when I rode it around the shop. I adjusted the seat post to max height and the saddle as far back as it could go. I also flipped the stem over to bring the bars up a bit more. I usually setup my bikes with a short stem for quicker handling. If you want to know more about the specific features of this bike, READ THIS POST.


    The bike weighed in at a hefty 28.56lbs with the current build. If you spend some time googling this bike you will find people are getting them down to about 23-24lbs with XTR/SRAM XO components. I believe, but don’t quote me, the fully built bike that comes with the new SRAM XX groupo will weight in around 21-22lbs. Now that’s what I’m talking about! Sadly, that bike is going to be over $6000. This frame and fork combo should be in the neighborhood of $2500 if I had to guess.


    On the trail, the first thing I noticed about the ride was the stiff headset. At first, it put me off a little. Then, I remembered this bike is engineered with racing in mind and a stiff headset is a good thing. The frame/fork were engineered this way to work with the Brain shock technology. Off the bat blasting down fire road I was amazed at how fast the bike was. The geometry was spot on for high speed acceleration standing or seated. I had the rear shock setup for a more plush suspension rather than super tight race setup. There was absolutely no pedal bob and as I dumped into the dirt and into a rock garden the bike held its line. The steering was very predictable and controlled through singletrack and small rutted sections of the trail. When you get into more aggressive terrain on most full suspension bikes, you typically feel like the rear end is sagging or dropping down (squishing). On the Epic, you feel like the rear tire is moving up and down behind you. That is the best way I can describe the feeling. My body wasn’t having to move as much with the bike which meant I could prepare better for what was coming. This also made me feel like I had to think less about what I was doing. All of this = better reaction time.


    The more I pushed the bike the better it felt. I actually (and hate to admit it) feel like I am not fast enough for this bike. I sprinted as fast as I could through very familiar terrain until I was at my comfort limit and the bike kept getting better and better. Climbing was not as efficient as my Niner Air9 hardtail but much improved over my Ellsworth Evolve (as expected). Climbing is also where I discovered that I may need a 19-inch size in this bike. Seated climbing the bike fit me pretty well. Standing climbing my body was pushing itself too far forward and out of my normal climbing position. I launched off a few small jumps roughly 1-3 feet in height to see how the bike would react. I adjusted the rear compression from wide open to closed off. Wide open the landing was smooth, controlled, but I wouldn’t say it was plush. The bike did not spring back up and shoot me forward, it stayed planted to the ground and wanted to keep moving. Closed off the landing had much more force to it but surprisingly it still didn’t break traction or cause the rear tire to wander off like a hardtail drop landing.


    This bike is going to be a great choice for those looking for a 29-inch race bike. I would love to have one of these for my next 12-hour Solo race. The bikes biggest strength is it’s ability to overcome varying terrain. No matter what I threw at it, the bike reacted the same. Think about that for a second. The suspension was consistent through everything. Can your bike say that? You probably want to say yes but I doubt it. There are a few other race inspired bikes I hope to get my hands on one day so I can compare them to this. It probably seems like I am giving Specialized a BJ with all the love I have for this bike, they just made it hard to find much I didn’t like.


    A few side notes. Tire/mud clearance looked good on the front running a 2.20 tire. In the rear it looks like a 2.10 is going to be about all you can stuff back there. The front tire was a 2.20 Specialized Captain which has always been a great tire. The rear was a 2.00 Specialized Fast Trak which I would never use again. I really love the Maxxis Crossmark 29×2.10 as a rear tire. I hope someone I know buys the SRAM XX version because I feel like this bike will be a completely different animal at 21-22lbs. We shall see.


    I should mention this bike is a prototype not a full production run. So, there may be some slight changes on the ones you see in stores soon.


    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  2. Pain Freak

    Pain Freak Dead or Alive

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2005
    Messages:
    11,163
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    Da Boss
    Location:
    Fontucky
    Home Page:
    Excellent review. I love Specialized bikes and gear I just Hate their business model.
     
  3. MTBMaven

    MTBMaven This is Shangri La

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2006
    Messages:
    2,646
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    GIS Coordinator
    Location:
    Pasadena, CA
    Thanks for the write up! I have my eye on this bike.

    Few things I didn't like reading:

    • The bike weighed in at a hefty 28.56lbs
    • This frame and fork combo should be in the neighborhood of $2500 if I had to guess
    • Climbing was not as efficient as my Niner Air9 hardtail
    Then again my MCR is not exactly svelte. I would like to see about testing riding one for a weekend.
     
  4. genusmtbkr5

    genusmtbkr5 STR Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    8,618
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Lead Aircraft Mechanic for Major Airline at LAX
    Location:
    South Bay/Pedro
    Would've liked to see how it did on a trail like Holy Jim, up and down with all the switchbacks and a few rocky sections. We missed you on the ride yesterday J. ;) Nice review non the less.
     
  5. Jordansrealm

    Jordansrealm New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2006
    Messages:
    2,479
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Photographer/Editor
    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita, CA
    Home Page:
    Weight: I should have said and may add that although the bike weighed 28+ it felt much lighter. I never felt the weight of this bike. Considering the build on it (heavy wheels especially) you could make it much lighter.
    Price: Well, its the Epic with brain it aint gonna be cheap. Trust me I wish it was!
    Climbing: No FS bikes beat HT's climbing, none.

    a little too much fun sat night for me gene sorry about missing the ride :) i mean the bonkfest :)
     
  6. genusmtbkr5

    genusmtbkr5 STR Moderator

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Messages:
    8,618
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Lead Aircraft Mechanic for Major Airline at LAX
    Location:
    South Bay/Pedro
    I was fine really, just knew if the pace was pushed in order for me to be back by 1pm that others would not be including me. I used most of my water pouring on my head and back to cool. We started way too late for a ride up the Santa Ana's.

    Would be interesting how the Epic handles Trabuco cause that trail has a bit of everything.
     
  7. hobie

    hobie Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2008
    Messages:
    952
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    18
    ya i got to see this bike upclose about a total of 4 minutes last week at leadville :bang:

    i pitted for Mike Sinyard and he was riding one. it was the only one i saw in the race. even his son anthony wasnt on one. rebecca rusch (sponsored by specialized) who won leadville for the women wasnt on one either. she was on a stumpy ht. i pitted for her too.

    anyways, i didnt have a fish scale on me but i picked the bike up a couple of times while pitting to move it and it was light weight for sure, sub 24lbs. it had all the XX group on it.
     
  8. donkey

    donkey New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    The Path Bike Shop
    Location:
    Silverado
    The complete Epic Marathon 29(equipped with XX and 1800 gram Roval wheels) is claimed to weigh just over 25lbs out of the box. This is from Specialized's 2010 sales literature....so it's likely to be fairly accurate.

    That being said.....a good weight weenie could likely get it into the high 23lb range with a change of wheels/bar/stem/saddle/post/tires/etc.

    I was super impressed with the one that I rode....definitely on my short list. The ride of the frame/fork was almost over-shadowed with how awesome the XX groupo is!

    B
     

Share This Page

Help keep STR alive, please click the donation button below