Cyclist hit and killed on Santiago Canyon Rd

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  1. el cap

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    Sorry for your loss. Everyone ride safe
     
  3. wheeler

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    Just me but meth isn't really intoxicating. I get that she was on illegal drugs but meth doesn't impair your ability to drive anymore than coffee does.[-X](*,)
     
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    Wouldn't know.....Meth isn't on my "To Do" list.....and I don't generally hang out with those who use.
     
  5. badgas

    badgas I like dirt

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    Coffee ?

    Lets try this again

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3280383/
     
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    You obviously haven't smoked meth for 8 hours and then got behind the wheel of a car. Let me tell you, it's a lot more intense than coffee.
     
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    did you see the shadow people? :D
     
  8. launchpad

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    Smoked more meth in 8 hours than you have your entire life from that comment. And 8 hours is like 5 minutes in meth time. Point was meth makes you focus more and doesn't impair your driving in the least until sleep deprivation kicks in. Guess you morons making snide remarks think the Luftwaffe were all just running into each other all the time because they were on meth.
     
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    Good times. It's obvious that she could drive no problem.
    but then may be itching to hit the trail and in a hurry.

    [video=youtube;IXXtYHfM0r8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXXtYHfM0r8[/video]
     
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    [video=youtube;14647u543-8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14647u543-8[/video]
     
  12. Hotchkiss

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    I don't know whats more Moronic. A reply on a thread about the tragic death of a
    cyclist comparing meth use to coffee, or me replying to it as if anyone would give a shit and change their opinion.
     
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    I'd say the former
     
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    Probably your reading comprehension. See the words "impair your ability to drive".
     
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    Back in the day I saw some people tweaked out of the ****ing minds on meth that I wouldnt trust to brush their teeth, let alone drive. There are different states of the "high" and euphoria. I'm sure that people in "the zone" are all focused and shit, big whoop. The cumulative effect of meth, for most people, causes the confluence of multiple factors, including distraction, euphoria, sleep deprivation, altered thinking with change of priorities (though this can fall under plain distraction to unpredictable manic states), etc.

    So, launchpad, while you can go on patting yourself on the back about "ability to drive" in a very controlled environment, I'm going to go ahead and guess that a TEEN GIRL, driving tweaked out in the MORNING hours, can tell us a lot about whether she was one of those more dangerous states and that she'd have been in a better position to drive had she not been on the meth. Me; I'm going to go ahead and guess this was a less controlled scenario than luftwaffe pilot combat dosing.

    The false equivalency here makes me want to facepalm.
     
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    I tend to agree and I believe I qualified my statement with the sleep dep comment multiple times. I have some experience back in the day in these matters myself and feel like i'm being unjustly attacked for making an offhand comment/musing (whether i'm right or wrong about it). Also if you drink enough coffee to stay up for 3 days you're not going to be driving that well either. My point was that just because a drug is illegal or dangerous doesn't mean it impairs your driving ability. Be like popping someone for DUI for being on steroids or something like that. Not the best analogy but still not sure why the hostility from some people.
     
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    Has nothing to do with Meth, If you ride your bicycle in santiago canyon on the road you will get hit.....Its like playing in the lion's den
     
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    Hostility? I just like good debate!
     
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    It's almost reaching PCH status, huh? =/
     
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    Its been PCH status. Its dangerous as hell, I used to commute through there on my motorcycle and saw thousands of drivers driving through there in the bike lane. Cars dont care about bicyclists and they arent looking out for you.
     

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