Ust/Tubeless Tires Help/Advise(merged/sticky)

TIP: start pumping then flip the wheel over & keep pumping to get the beads nice & wet inside on both sides - seems to help the bead pop alot sooner

 

Thanks for all the tips guys. I cleaned the rim of the old slime and mounted the tire for the hell of it with no soapy water or sealant. I may do a local ride from my house to see if it holds but will most likely get some stans to put in it tomorrow. The bead seemed to seat quite easily and appears to be holding air so far. :bang:

 

Question?

If I have a tubeless setup and the tires are wearing real nice and lasting for a while? month or 2, or 3 do I have to put in more stans? Or is it good until you swap tires, or have a blow out? :?: I also have a tubleless setup on my road bike that I got used, do I need to put some more stans in there? Its been a couple of months?

 

Ambient temperature will have an effect on the Stan's sealant and dictate how often you need to replace it/top it off. As a rule of thumb, I'd check it every few weeks, particularly during hot weather, to make sure there's enough in there. If you do have a puncture that the Stan's seals, you will probably have lost some sealant in the process and will need to add a little.

I bought the kit that includes a valve core remover and 2 oz syringe. you remove the valve core, screw the syringe to the stem, and inject Stan's directly into the tire without the need to remove the bead from the rim. A piece of cake to do and no clean up :bang:

 

Just got back - it cooled off nicely. Tire held up fine but i'll load it up with stans tomorrow.

 

I have Mavic 823 rims W/mavic presta stems. If I use stans tire sealant will the stem get clogged up w/stans?

 

if it gets clogged then it means you have a leaky valve stem. but no, i've never had one get clogged, and i think most of us run prestas.

 

Thx, the reason I asked is because I once tried 20" presta tubes geto and the stem cloged.

 

Anyone use anything special to fix tubeless punctures? I'm trying a standard tube patch. I have 3 tires that won't seal with Stan's.

 

Who sells vulcanizing patch kits? Is that the heat or chemical application?
Sounds better than rubber cement and a patch.
Pep boys? MC shops?

 

Drill, File, Repeat..

um ..you could always drill out your wheels valve hole to except the larger shrader valves. If you ever get a gouge that the Stan's can't fill and you need to tube up to get you off the trail either type will work. Plus, when it's time to add your quarterly scoop of Stan's all you have to do is pull the valve core out and squeeze some right on in.

The list of Pro's & Con's Schrader vs Presta go on & on.. I doubt I'd ever go Presta unless It was all I had access to on the trail or I went all full bib and roadie

 

This is exactly what I do..with presta cores.

 

There's an instructional vid on youtube using gorilla tape:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UeO8Utfny0

 

i wouldnt drill out the rims, it weakens them. I've been running the prestas with stans since 2006 on the same stems and i've never had a clog. I also cut my stems out of an old tube, so they're not even real tubless stuff.

 

so with the purchase of a new wheelset and tires, i have decided to go with a tubeless setup. i would love to run UST tires but these tires are brand new, so thats out of the question (for now). i've been reading a lot of threads and watching a ton of videos on converting to a tubeless setup and feel confident to do it myself. but i have a couple questions regarding this conversion:

setup:
Transition Revolution 36
2.5 Kenda Nevegal Stick-E nonUST

is this the exact kit that i'll be using for my rim(36mm wide)?:
http://www.notubes.com/product_info.php/cPath/21_58/products_id/36

also, do i need a Tire Sealant Injector / Applicator?

will a regular floor pump be good enough with my setup?

should i go ghetto tubless or stans notubes?

in case of a tear on the sidewall or huge hole, where can i get that crazy cement patch thingy mentioned above?

lastly, any success stories with my setup?

 

Good luck. I've had good luck with converting Outlaws, which are similar? However, HORRIBLE luck converting non-UST Nevegals.

 

The 2.5 Nevegals set up real easy for me with Stans on my Outlaws. The 2.35s not so much. When I first went tubeless I had 2 new tires as well. A 2.5 and a 2.35. Both Nevegals. I did the 2.5 first. Wow this is easy. Did the 2.35 next. Hour and a half later this sucks. The 2.35 was a lot harder to set up but did eventually got it to seal. Since then I've went to 2.35 Nevegals UST front and rear.

One tip I will add that worked for me. Mount the tire up with a tube on a spare rim if you have it, air it up and lay it in the sun for an hour or so before converting.

 

>will a regular floor pump be good enough with my setup?

I've NEVER been able to pop the beads with a floor pump, but I've had 100% success with a gas station pump and removable cores (to allow more airflow).
Once you've popped the beads, any pump will work as long as the beads are still intact.

>also, do i need a Tire Sealant Injector / Applicator?

It helps. It let's you add or refill sealant without breaking the bead. Just make sure your Presta valves have a removable core, OR use Schrader valves. The Notubes syringe includes a schrader core remover.

 

This will be the best $99 you'll spend once you finally make the decision to go to a tubeless setup.

 

A little help here, I took advantage of the Path Thanksgiving sale and bought new tubeless tires for mine and my wifes back, did the install with Stans and the backs on both bikes are holding great leaks about 10 pounds a week. Fronts on both bikes will bleed out 10 pounds a night. What did I do wrong? I used the compressor and it popped pretty good. My bike was already setup tubeless and would not bleed hardly any air out during the week prior to the swap. Thanks