Tubeless vs Tube(merged/sticky)

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  1. LoisMustDie

    LoisMustDie Beer! How did you know?

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    Soap and water and make sure the beads are both in the center of the rim all the way around. If they are not in the center (the deep part of the rim) you won't be able to get the damn thing on. What bike shop did you go to?
     
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    Oh yea, we did that. I even used elec-taped vise-grips to hold em down in place, but still no go. Pretty decent local high-end shop, which for dignities sake will remain nameless. I've been assured it was the hardest combination they'd ever seen. ...but thinking about it, when I tried tubeless the first time when they came out, I remember having the same issue & giving up...
     
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    I feel your pain. The first time I got a flat in my tubeless tire, I spent half an hour trying to pop the bead out so I could put in some sealant. I eventually gave up and walked the last mile back to my house.
     
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    Schwalbe Nobby Nic with Mavic 819 is a good combo. Maybe I'm awesome though.

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    So were you trying out the "ghetto" solution?
     
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    I actually carry a spare inner tube just in case i do get a flat or tear on the tire
    But so far tubless is workin great and would not go back to tubes
     
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    DT Swiss EX 500s? That dance sounds familiar.

    I ended up having the DT Swiss rimstrips move around, so I pulled them out and used gorilla tape instead. Works much better.
     
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    I'm running tubes at 40 PSI and have been since I started riding years ago, I have only got one flat in all my years of riding and it was some dead critters tooth that stuck my tire, so i think running low pressure is the main cause of flats or at least in my experiece. I have no experience with tubeless so I'm curious as a few posts mention less rolling resistance with tubeless, but from what I'm reading most go tubeless to be able to achieve lower pressures, so how does a lower pressure tubeless system have less rolling resistance than a regular pressured tube set up? If anyone can help shed some light on that for me it would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks in advance guys
     
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    What I've experienced, and I think the main concept is, a tire with lower pressure, when it meets say a 3" or 4" rock obstacle, will absorb some of the impact and keep more forward momentum. A tire with higher pressure will bounce off the obstacle transferring more of the impact energy up and rearward, slowing forward progress. Somewhere out in internetland there is a study I think done by Scwhalbe that puts numbers to it, showing lower pressure is faster.

    Having said that, not sure if it makes that much difference between say 40psi to 30psi. I like lower more because the tires seem to grip better on the downhill at lower pressure. But how low psi you can go with tubeless depends on tire/sidewall, your weight and probably a hundred other things. So you just have to try it and see if it is worth it for you. Some like TL and some don't think it's worth the bother.
     
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    The biggest issue I had going to tubeless......and I held out for a very long time.....was the feeling if the tire squirming around a bit, but thy is more of a byproduct of not running tubeless tires, but instead converting light weight XC tires over.

    I have since adjusted to it, and it's not an issue anymore.
     

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