Suspension-specific grease?

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  1. fongster

    fongster Active Member

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    I've seen or heard it mentioned in fork servicing articles or vids (for lubing up dust seals) but can't seem to locate it. Is that what it's actually called or it is simply a particular type of grease like silicon, lithium, etc. Where to find it? Thanks.
     
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    I use Buzzy's Slick Honey (http://buzzysusa.com/#slick-honey). I know they carry it at The Path in a convenient 2 oz tube. When putting my fork back together after servicing i rub a little on the bushings and then the seals. It is thinner than normal grease, so I bet that it gets washed into the bath oil pretty fast, but at the least it makes it easier to get the stanctions over the lips of the seals.
     
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    In my fork thread someone mentioned that using slick honey on a fox with kashima was a bad idea. I use it on my rockshox without any ill effects so far.
     
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    I don't have it myself but here is a handy list if you're not sure: http://www.ridefox.com/2012preview/technology.php?t=kc
     
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    I think lithium is bad as it doesn't mix with the oil well and eats away at the seals. That said, i have used Green Grease for nearly all my lube needs and have yet to have an issue. I think the degradation would be slow enough that i would probably consider the parts worn and needing service regardless.
     
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    slickoleum, judy butter and slick buzzys honey are all supposed to be the same. i used to use it liberally on rebuilds, but not anymore. generally, it doesnt stay long on a fork. or it collects dirt really fast. i just use fork oil on main seals and foam rings.

    what its useful for is installing new o-rings. specially in air spring assemblies, rebound shafts, tops caps etc. orings get beat up real fast when slid on dry surfaces. massaging the orings with the stuff makes for easier installation and smooth assembly and avoids installation wear.

    btw, ive had good results using marine axle grease on suspension pivots. the stuff is design to use on axle bearings on boat trailers that are dipped in saltwater. way sticky and stupidly high load ratings. cheap too!
     
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    proraptor The Bikes & Brew Crew

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    I've been using manitou prep m grease on my suspension since the 90's good stuff
     
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    Dow 33 on the seals.
     
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    Chamois butter.
     
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    When I service my Boxxers, I use Slick Honey. This product gives the forks new life, but just for about 10hrs of ride time (or so). I don't know if there is a better product out there, but a few friends I know who work for bike manufacturers suggest using Slick Honey, and nothing else.
     
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    I use slick honey on my 888. Works pretty good.
     
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    btw, if you want your fork and shock to be really slick and buttery, ive had good luck with this.

    spray this stuff on your stanchions before or after your ride, cycle and wipe down with paper towel.

    it cleans and lubricates, and i havent changed my fork seals in almost 2 years since i started using it.

    better than kashima :) j/k

    http://www.liquidwrench.com/pressroom/IMAGEGALLERY/detail.asp?t=image&i=9

    its also the best lubricant ive found for derailleurs and pulleys. its thin, but foams on application. gets into everything.
     
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    I was on the phone with Fox today about a part and asked the CSR about this. She said use some Fox Green 10 wt on them--sounds too simple to me but they are the mfr. :?: I thought she'd at least say Fox Float Fluid as the foam rings are right next to them. :?::?:
     
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    Just 10 hrs?
     
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    The thing is, the Boxxers and most other forks have a open oil bath in the lowers. This lubricates the seals and the stanchions. As the fork cycles, it washes the grease off. Secondly, greasing the dust wipers only serves to trap dirt. In a worse case scenario, the dust wiper starts sanding down the stanchion :(

    IMHO, keep the dust wipers and main oil seals on fork oil. The oil helps to wash the dirt down into the bath. When you do a lowers service, you flush the dirt away. If you want more lubrication, experiment with synth engine oil in the lowers.
     
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    Boxxers are maintenance heavy because they only use 45cc and 15cc of oil in their lowers. It is not an open bath setup, more like a semi open bath. Marzocchis are true open bath and with 200+cc's of lube/damping oil sloshing around, helps them have much longer service intervals.
     
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    Was just saying that 10hrs is a shit ton of time on a Boxxer without servicing.
     
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    Wow. Youre fork must be minty. 10 hours sounds like just 3 outings. I may not even oil the chain at 10 hours.

    At around 30 hours, I'll change the oil in the lowers.

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    Shuttle time doesn't count as riding time there sweetheart :)
     
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    10 hrs of dh time is an eternity. Last time I went to whistler, I probably put like 3 years of socal riding time on my bike. Bing, you can't compare xc riding to dh riding. Forks get trashed. Xc forks don't go through the deep cycle high pressure events which is high stress on seals nearly as much as dh forks. Seriously, one full day of riding at whistler on a boxxer and I bet 1/4 of them would be spewing oil out the seals. And the rest feeling super high stiction.
     

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