All Things STRAVA (merged threads)

For the wife's info, I will often leave geoladders on showing the route on our home computer. That, or if I've recorded it on strava before I can leave that open.

 

Just an FYI, that picture of the guy was NOT Johnny C...and he is a douche bag, personally know him.

 

I didn't read back more than a page or so... Didnt see anything definitive as to why all the ridiculous trails don't get reset. Reset the whole Aliso and El Morro Wilderness Parks. It's so dumb the flagging and amount of trails. There should be no more talk until this is resolved.

 

What the effing hell?!?!? Almost all of the Meadows DH trails are flagged as of today. Lame ass $h!t.

 

Keep going back and you will find a detailed discussion regarding Aliso/Whiting, etc... (Page 30)

It seems to go something like this - riders bomb Meadows running hikers/uphill riders off the trail.

Other riders witness, blame STRAVA, then go home and flag segment.

All you have to do is recreate the segment (I've redone most of the Aliso segments on multiple occasions).

It takes less time than it does to ride the segment. It also takes less time than it does to contact support and try and talk them into resetting the segment.

 

Wait a minute....we're STILL dealing with this ridiculous flagging problem?
I get that the segments can be reset and that if you've "starred" a segment it protects your personal history (right?), but this is still ridiculous. And I have a hard time believing that this is all about riders ratting out other riders for recklessness, but regardless of who's doing it, one person should not be able to affect a core function of the site for everyone else.

There have been a ton of great suggestions from users; why on Earth won't Strava resolve this? Just create a system where it requires more than a single report from a single user to render a segment void, and a user should not need the ability to flag more than one segment per day. Preferably it would require a user to have a certain amount of credibility established on the site through multiple rides, hikes, etc. Someone should not just be able to register and immediately start flagging everything in sight.

 

So what's everyones take on the new ride page? Personally I hate it. I tried it a few months back and gave it a shot for a few weeks. I got tired of getting frustrated with it so I went back to the old one. Well, today they rolled me to the new page. Grrrrrrrrrr.

 

yeah, not 100% sold on it. Seems like extra page clicks to view the leaderboards.

 

I tried it for a good 3 weeks, then was relived when I realized I could go back to the old one. There were a couple good things about the new one, but all in all, the old one is a lot easier to look at and see what I want to see. I too have now been forced onto the new one so I guess we're stuck with it now.

 

Eh...just like most things that aren't critical in life, we'll get used to it. I'll take some of the bad with the features they keep rolling out and using it concert with Veloviewer.com so I can nerd out on data.

 

It comes across to me as more of the proverbial moving deck chairs than anything else. The new pages look okay but it doesn't seem as functional and most of the changes appear to be made for the sake of changes. I can work around them, but I'd much rather their development team spent time adding features, content/analysis or making stuff work better, not just rehashing the web interface with essentially the same stuff laid out differently.

 

Anyone able to link or tell me how to find the Luge segment, but climbing it? Could not figure it out. Thanks.


Nevermind, got it.

 

Wouldn't recommend climbing it though. Nowhere to go if someones coming down, and if it's me, I probably couldn't stop and the name would change from luge to splat.....

 

I understand the desire, but I REALLY hope that climbing Luge doesn't catch on. It's one of the few trails that essentially has a self-regulated downhill-only policy, and I like it that way. Given the narrowness, a few fairly blind corners, some exposure, and the speed that some carry, plus several sections that I'd bet most people couldn't clear while climbing (meaning walkers), it just seems like a bad accident waiting to happen.

 

Agreed...people's thought that it should be safe during the week at non peak hours is flawed as well as many (including myself) would tend to use those same days as the time to descend as fast as possible. Make no mistake though...the uphill rider will still jump up (if conscious) yelling about how uphill has the right of way. Common sense people...use it or lose it.

 

Hey guys- You ever had Strava loose any of your segments?
I had not, until the last three rides. In those rides I have lost 21.7 miles and 4984ft. WTF! :O
I re-installed the app today, hopefully that fixes things. I'm not not quick to blame the phone of the service provider as my car oriented nav is working fine and again it was not a problem- until recently.

Thoughts?

 

To clarify, you're using the Strava phone app and it did not record part of a ride/segments? Is it recording and showing a full ride but the GPS cuts out and you see a straight line(s) between two points where it cuts out, random smaller areas cutting out, it's showing/tracking the entire ride but the distance/elevation numbers aren't correct, or is it doing something else?

I've got the app loaded on my Android phone and have never seen anything where big sections of a ride are missing but the GPS doesn't seem to track as accurate as my Garmin. I normally don't use the app to record rides but when I do it's always as a backup in case my Garmin (Forerunner 310XT) has an issue (i.e. for longer rides or races where the data is more important).

When comparing the two the results from the GPS-only phone app versus the Garmin using a speed & cadence sensor for backup along with 1-second logging it does seem like the Garmin is a lot more consistent and appears more accurate. If you're getting sections of a ride where it drops out it might be difficult to pinpoint a problem with the app or if it's an issue with your phone's GPS hardware.

 

It cut my last ride (Monday) by about half a mile, but I'm not sure if it was a glitch in my Garmin or in Strava. The readout on the Garmin was 28.6 when I saved the ride, but when I uploaded to Strava, it picked up 28.2. I didn't think much of it since it only happened once and wasn't that far off. The weird thing was that Strava shows the whole ride starting about a half mile into the ride. The elevation wasn't noticeably off, but it was a flat section that it skipped anyway.

I still have the raw data on my Garmin, so maybe I'll try uploading it to Garmin's website to see if it shows the same thing as Strava.

Edit: Nevermind, It looks like the Garmin must still been acquiring satellites when I started the ride. Garmin Connect shows the exact same route as Strava, but somehow shows the full 28.6 miles that the device did. Strava only shows it at 28.2. Weird considering it's the same raw GPS data and they both show the same start and end. Oh well, close enough. Sounds like it's not the same issue Shawndoh had.

 

I thought when data is uploaded to the Strava website they're using some smoothing algorithms not just for the GPS elevation data when the recording device doesn't have a barometric altimeter but also to "smooth" out GPS spikes in travel paths on flat ground (especially for devices like some Garmins that use a "smart recording" to save power and memory but not recording data points as often). I have seen distance values after uploading be off when I wasn't using the Garmin speed/cadence sensor and was relying only on the GPS data, especially on rides with lots of sharp elevation changes where GPS isn't the best.

For me it seems the old analogy garbage in, garbage out applies. If I don't have a good GPS lock on my Garmin, I use the phone app but my phone is in my pack and not getting a great signal, the phone is power saving and not tracking accurately, etc. it will skew output results when viewed in Strava and other apps.

Just my general observation from always looking at other people's activities and noting which device they used, a stand-alone cycling or sport unit like the Garmin Edge and other models either have good data from an apparent good satellite lock or they're all over the place and be completely off, but normally track fairly well. I've noticed way more anomalies in user data from the Strava app used on cell phones. Tracks that don't follow roads/courses, higher occurrences of bad max speed and other ride analysis irregularities.

I could see it being nice for convenience if you don't have, don't want, or can't afford a standalone GPS unit but some phone/devices don't seem to work so well if you care about (better/good/reasonable) accuracy.

 

Totally omitting segments. I wouldn't care if it was minor accuracy issues and small distances. But it's 3 rides loosing 10.8mi/2311ft, 9.1mi/1679ft, 1.8mi/994ft. That's to much to ignore. Hopefully the re-install takes care of it. I'll find out today.