Avid Rotors with Hayes Brakes?

[Evil Chocula]

Someone at a less than reputable bike shop told me I coudn't run Avid Rotors with Hayes brakes... is this true?

[guero]

i think he is wrong.

[Shu]

I have Magura brakes w/ Avid rotors and have no problems..I think he was feeding you a line too..

[Neccros]

Bulls**t..... I switch wheels between bikes with Avids and Hayes and either works fine...

[PacMan]

According to the mechanic at my LBS, you aren't supposed to switch manufacturers between rotors and calipers. I don't see why not, but he says that's what all the manufacturers recommend. He says that different rotors are different thicknesses and shouldn't be inter-changed.

Like I said, it seems kind of stupid to me, but that what he says.

[Neccros]

Originally Posted by PacMan

According to the mechanic at my LBS, you aren't supposed to switch manufacturers between rotors and calipers. I don't see why not, but he says that's what all the manufacturers recommend. He says that different rotors are different thicknesses and shouldn't be inter-changed.

Like I said, it seems kind of stupid to me, but that what he says.

Yeah and I also read the "We recommend duracell batteries" note as im sticking energizers into my camera....

Whatever!!!

[Evil Chocula]

Originally Posted by PacMan

According to the mechanic at my LBS.

Does your mechanic work at... Amazon Bikes?

[PacMan]

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Does your mechanic work at... Amazon Bikes?

Not a chance in heck.

Originally Posted by Neccros

Yeah and I also read the "We recommend duracell batteries" note as im sticking energizers into my camera....

Whatever!!!

Ya, but this is coming from a mechanic who does not stand to profit one way or the other from whichever rotors you coose to use.

Like I said, I don't care one way or the other, just repeating what I was advised.

[elab]

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Someone at a less than reputable bike shop told me I coudn't run Avid Rotors with Hayes brakes... is this true?

Liar, liar!

I've been using avid rotors with hayes brakes for two years now. Zero issues.

[jcampbell]

This is just my opinion that comes from my personal experience...

Those cheap rotors that come with the avid mechanicals don't work with the older hayes if you have a standard setup. For me, they are too thick and just a milimeter too tall to so they rub the caliber. I had to shim the caliper up but I still get a lot of rub no matter what I do. The caliper just doesn't pull back far enough on either side. I originally though the alignment was off, but it really just a little too thick.

[PacMan]

That was the other point I forgot to include. The every rotor does not have the same shape/size braking surface, so pads may wear unevenly.

[Lefty Kev]

Originally Posted by PacMan

According to the mechanic at my LBS, you aren't supposed to switch manufacturers between rotors and calipers. I don't see why not, but he says that's what all the manufacturers recommend. He says that different rotors are different thicknesses and shouldn't be inter-changed.

Like I said, it seems kind of stupid to me, but that what he says.

It goes without saying that a manufacturer will always recommend that you use their products over that of a rival company, no matter whether it's brakes, cakes, or garden rakes

The gauge of the rotor shouldn't be an issue since this can be remedied by making a minor caliper adjustment. After all, a rotor is a rotor is a rotor...

[Neccros]

My Avids are shaped similar to my Hayes so the "different shapes cause pads to wear differently" goes out the window!

I agree... I had to adjust my brakes a little when I swapped wheels but it was about a 5 min adjustment....That was due to the width of the hub and not the thickness of the rotor...

[project_d]

If bjammin's around he could tell you. I think it's not recommended because producer A makes a rotor with a 2" wide braking width, and a matching brake pad with a 2" with, but producer B makes a rotor and brake pad with a 1.5" braking width. So, if you use producer B's brakes with producer A's rotors, you're not going to get the braking power you need. Or at least something to that effect.

That being said, many have the same braking area, so you can switch out brakes & rotors between many of the manufacturers.

[SSinGA]

As long as you make sure that your rotor is sweeping the entire pad, which can be adjusted with spacers or maybe a little dremel work to the brake adapter (assuming you are using one), most rotors will interchange between brakes. I believe that most rotors are 2mm thick as well - of course there will be some fluctuations.

I used to use Hope Gothic rotors with my Hayes Purples and am currently using Hope 2 piece rotors with my Avid Juicy 7.

[soul rider]

sounds like EVIL went to Jax in Fullerton...
sales guy..."no the rotors are not compatible, for the rotor to work right you have to buy all new brakes, but these brakes only work with this high end fork which will only work with this limitied edition carbon Frame that you will have to put a 3,000.00 dollar deposit on and wait 6 months until we get them in. now for the bike to pedal correctly you really need to buy all this gear that i have no idea what it is for or what it does...will that be cash or charge? oh for you to use your card that is an additonal 10%"
thanks and come back soon.

[Evil Chocula]

Haha... it wasn't Jax, but that sounds like at least three bike shops I've been to in San D.

Originally Posted by soul rider

sounds like EVIL went to Jax in Fullerton...
sales guy..."no the rotors are not compatible, for the rotor to work right you have to buy all new brakes, but these brakes only work with this high end fork which will only work with this limitied edition carbon Frame that you will have to put a 3,000.00 dollar deposit on an wait 6 months until we get them in. now for the bike to pedal correctly you really need to buy all this gear that i have no idea what it is for or what it does...will that be cash or charge? oh for you to use your card that is an additonal 10%"
thanks and come back soon.