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Old 06-26-2007, 11:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What are yer favorite tubeless configurations? I'm running Mavic Crosslands which are old & heavy (2000g+) but I haven't flatted in 2 yrs! The tubeless thing may weigh more but the absence of flats totally makes up for it. I wanna make my wife's bike tubeless but the cost for new stuff is scaring me. Cut 24" tubes & Stans's? Who's got the trickness?
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So far so good running Blue Groove and Nevegal Tubless with Stans. I have to say I am pretty happy with the tubeless because I was always a flat happy person and so far Im good (hope thats not a jinx).
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm all over the UST setup with my 819's.

For the past year I've been running Maxis HighRoller UST 2.35. Those are badass tires, just not the fastest.

I would love to run Kenda's but the UST only come in 2.1. I ran the 2.1 UST Nevagal for a while but thing wore super fast.

I actually just bought a Maxis Ranchero 2.1 UST. Its sopposed to be a more XC lighter version of the HighRoller. I am going to run it in the back. Has anyone ran this tire before?
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I just switched to 819 rims, and am using a 2.1 UST Nobby Nic in the back and a 2.25 UST Nobby Nic in the front. I only have about 50 miles on the tires so far, all of which were in Yreka, CA, but the dirt is similar enough to SoCal that I can say they should do fine here. They seem like very good tires.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:43 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So far so good running Blue Groove and Nevegal Tubless with Stans. I have to say I am pretty happy with the tubeless because I was always a flat happy person and so far Im good (hope thats not a jinx).
Jordan is probably running the non-UST tires as tubless (right?). Using these tires in this configuration is challenging at best. Because there are many pinholes in Kenda tires, it can take several days and many times refilling the air to get the system to seal. Once you have it sealed, you have a tire that handles questionably ok, since it's not supported. UST tires have thicker sidewalls, and as a result, more support. I just tried this setup on one of my bikes, and I didn't like it. Sure, it was nice that it doesn't flat as easily from thorns.
An additional problem with this setup is that the thin sidewalls can still be "pinched cut" just as easily if not more easily than pinchflatting a tube. Also, due to a lack of protection, the rim is more prone to damage.

Unless you're running thick sidewalled DH tires or UST specific tires, don't go UST. There's plenty of reading on this topic in the wheel/tires forum at mtbr.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I am running what the Path recommended but I cannot remember off the top of my head if they are UST or not but I am pretty sure I recall the writing on my receipt saying UST.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:49 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Kenda does have UST tires in a 2.1, but not the 2.35 yet...as far as I know. The Kenda UST tires are a good call.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Kenda does have UST tires in a 2.1, but not the 2.35 yet...as far as I know. The Kenda UST tires are a good call.
Mine are 2.1 front and rear.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Any word is Kenda will make 2.35 UST tires?? I would be all over that!!
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:57 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Any word is Kenda will make 2.35 UST tires?? I would be all over that!!

Nah, Kenda's are overrated. The Nevegals wear out faster than...well, real fast. Yes, even the DTC.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm all over the UST setup with my 819's.

I would love to run Kenda's but the UST only come in 2.1. I ran the 2.1 UST Nevagal for a while but thing wore super fast.
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm currently running Hutchinson Barracuda UST Tubeless Light (26 X 2.1, 695 grams) front and back and am generally happy except the rear tire has burped a couple of times in the last few weeks (the last time on Rattlesnake...could have had calamitous consequences but I managed to stop before crashing/ruining my rim!).

I think the burping might just be that I'm not seating the tire correctly and not a problem with the tire itself. I previously ran Hutchinson Octopus tires without a single problem and they are essentially the same tire with an identical tread profile as the Barracudas but in a larger, heavier format.

I have also used WTB VelociRaptors (front and rear specific) with Stan's. These tires handled very well in rocky, loose conditions but because they are not tubeless, I had to keep topping up the air every couple of days or so. Hopefully, they will eventually release a tubeless version of these tires
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Old 06-28-2007, 06:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I ride nothing but tubless, both my FXR's are running 819's with 2.1 and 2.35 maxxis high rollers, my fly is running dee max rims and 2.5 minion's and my mono is running 2.5 minion and a 2.7 in front with stans... maxxis doesn't make a 2.7 ust....I really like it on the Dh bikes, i can run like 20 psi
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I just bought 819's and can't wait to try them out. I also got UST Maxxis Ignitors because they were on sale. Not sure how those will perform.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Any word is Kenda will make 2.35 UST tires?? I would be all over that!!
I received an email from them the other day stating that a 2.35 Nevegal UST will be in production soon, and they will have them on display at Interbike.
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Old 07-06-2007, 10:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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has anyone run the schwalbe fat albert and little albert ust? i'm thinking of running these since they come in a 2.35 and 2.25.. the nobby nic is also on the list, so royta, i look forward to your long term review in the future
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Old 07-07-2007, 06:33 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I'm all over the UST setup with my 819's.

For the past year I've been running Maxis HighRoller UST 2.35. Those are badass tires, just not the fastest.

I would love to run Kenda's but the UST only come in 2.1. I ran the 2.1 UST Nevagal for a while but thing wore super fast.

I actually just bought a Maxis Ranchero 2.1 UST. Its sopposed to be a more XC lighter version of the HighRoller. I am going to run it in the back. Has anyone ran this tire before?
Yep, I bought them a few years back on the recommendation of a friend. They are okay, but that's it,okay only. They will not handle turns at speed as they are very predictable as to when they'll break lose, fast, very fast. I found that if I leaned just a little to much going into a turn they'd break lose, so I found myself sitting in a more upright position going into and remaining upright thru the turn, which really sucked as I had to scrub a lot of speed. I still have the tires, if you like them, you can have them.

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has anyone run the schwalbe fat albert and little albert ust? i'm thinking of running these since they come in a 2.35 and 2.25.. the nobby nic is also on the list, so royta, i look forward to your long term review in the future
Nam, The Fat Albert is a really good tire, although expensive and twice I tore the knobs off with one resulting in immediate tire failure. Dean gave me a Weirwolf out in Utah that I've been running since then and though maybe not as nice as the Albert, it costs one third the price. Another you may consider for the front is the Big Betty, very light and a BIG footprint. My all time favorite so far is the tire I bought up in Mammoth which is the Specialized "Chunder",2.5 number one tire at Mammoth and Whistler but works amazingly well everywhere I've rode it. It's a little heavy but the trade off is well worth it. I've put this on a real skinny rim from American Classic and with the Stans I haven't had a single problem in about a year. Very, very, happy with this set up.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:20 PM   #19 (permalink)
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mikey, i'm currently running the BB and i like it a lot but i will soon be switching over to UST and i wanted to run a ust/tubeless tire and the BB are neither.
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Old 07-07-2007, 07:24 PM   #20 (permalink)
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mikey, i'm currently running the BB and i like it a lot but i will soon be switching over to UST and i wanted to run a ust/tubeless tire and the BB are neither.
Doesn't make any difference you can still run tubeless with Stans weather a tire is UST or not.
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