Why is Stan's such a PITA? And, why do I bother?

[Evil Chocula]

Here I am, 5 days without a bike, and I still can't get this POS tire to reseal.... after it exploded on a two foot drop last week and bucked me.

WTF

[katonk]

Yeah, but tubes suck even more.

[Shu]

ummmm maybe your tire is toast?????

so far in my limited experience w/ tubeless/Stans....I don't see why everyone(well so many people) have problems....I guess I've just been lucky....

to answer your question why bother....I hate trail side flats

[davidB]

i've had nothing but positive experiences with stan's. Seems to seal up just about every hole. I say "just about" because I have a hole on my bead of one of my tires that nothing will seal at anything above 25psi.

nevegal/blue groove + mavic 819 = win
small block 8's + stan arch = win

none of my tires are the tubeless version, but that hasn't mattered yet

[Kritter]

No issues here. Didnt you have trouble installing the kit too? Is this a conversion wheel or a tubeless wheel?

[hoovermd]

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Here I am, 5 days without a bike, and I still can't get this POS tire to reseal.... after it exploded on a two foot drop last week and bucked me.

WTF

I burped by Neo-Pacenti on a 650B Stan's rim last week on a 18 drop and it sealed right up... Needed quite a but of air but had no issues.

[killer Bob]

I have had great times with Stans. I've had a couple of punctures that sealed right up and I have never had any flats in over two years. I have had periodic problems resealing after placing new liquid in. sometimes it needs the air compressors at the bike shop to get the seal going. I just bring it in to Surf City Cyclery and they do it up for me right there.

[Chewyeti]

you gotta be mechanically inclined to use stans

[92se-r]

Because it is hype. Just like Avids.

I consider myself mechanically inclined with about 7 motor swaps under my belt, countless other car related things, assembling bikes from the frame up, rebuilding suspensions, etc....

[schleppp]

Originally Posted by 92se-r

Because it is hype. Just like Avids.

I consider myself mechanically inclined with about 7 motor swaps under my belt

You swap motors under your belt? COOL!

[Pain Freak]

I ran Stans for years and it is good stuff but I found the Lite Slime tubes are by far a better deal. I 've had to many issues with the valve stems breaking. With the slime tubes it's a breeze to change tires and no goop to mess with. Another thing that Dean taught me that works is to put some Stans in a tube and run it like a slime tube. Works great.

[J_Sims]

It has been my experience so far that I have no issues with Stan as long as I am using one of his rims and just about any tire (2 sets of Arches, 1 set of 355's)... The problems occured for me when I invited him to a Salsa Party with the delgados... Big Boom and pink stuff all over the place.

[eruizela]

how do u get slime in a regular inner tube?

Originally Posted by Pain Freak

I ran Stans for years and it is good stuff but I found the Lite Slime tubes are by far a better deal. I 've had to many issues with the valve stems breaking. With the slime tubes it's a breeze to change tires and no goop to mess with. Another thing that Dean taught me that works is to put some Stans in a tube and run it like a slime tube. Works great.

[dstepper]

Originally Posted by eruizela

how do u get slime in a regular inner tube?

Poke a hole in the tube, add sealant, patch or by tube with removable stem cores. I have found that the Slime Light tubes seal better and the latex lasts longer than Stans before drying out. Plus slime tubes have removable cores. The only other tubes I found that have removable cores are Continental. I have also found that using talc on tubes can keep the latex from sealing.

All that said my UST Mavic 819 and UST Fat Albert has worked excellent. I have not been impressed with Getto tubeless setups.

Dean

[Tedroy]

Make sure the beads are in the middle all the way around the wheel and
make sure the beads are on either side of the valve stem while filling. A little hand pressure (on the tire) above the valve stem will help.

... Flats suck. Stans' eliminates the problem to a certain extent. I carry 2 tubes and patches for the tubes and a pump to inflate the friggin tubes, none of which I ever use. I don't relish walking a bike through the mountains though. If my faith was truly strong, I'd dump the extra crap from my pack and rail on, but shiznit happens, so I still "carry". Other than all that, tubeless tires roll over nastry stuff much better, have better traction with their low pressure ability and have proven their reliabilty to me for over 4 years now. BTW I'm Running UST rims and UST tires. The only way I've ever lost pressure was in a crash, when I nailed a huge rock and endoed at high speed.

[ODB]

You tubeless folks are so cute. Your devotion to air compressors, difficult setup and spattered goo (followed by the installation of a pefectly good tube) is just priceless.

[ka0t1c07]

Stans are not hard to setup and maintain. I air up my stans setup with a floor pump. all you have to do b4 mounting the tire onto the rims is streatch the beads apart for a while. The soapy water helps a lot. Then the rest is all game. No big mess here. Well all mess are handled by a sheet of Brawny.

[Clyde S Dale]

Originally Posted by ODB

You tubeless folks are so cute. Your devotion to air compressors, difficult setup and spattered goo (followed by the installation of a pefectly good tube) is just priceless.

No air compressor (I did use a shot of co2 once), easy set-up, no spattered goo. I do ride with people who use tubes. Its so cute watching them replace them up to three times on a ride.

I like tubeless so much I'm running tubeless tires on my car, too (which has full suspension with gears and disk brakes).

[trailman]

Originally Posted by eruizela

how do u get slime in a regular inner tube?

even on tubes without a removable valve core you can usually unscrew the little nut on top with some pliers. let the valve core drop into the tube and hold it with your fingers. Put some stans in and work the valve core back to the stem and put the nut back on.

[BrewMaster]

I have not had any problems running tubeless with Stan's rims (Arches) and sealant with Maxxis and Conti tires. Perhaps your rim or tire is out of whack. Not sure of set up.

As to why you bother, less flats and a cushy ride, that's why. Some say reduced weigt but that's not a big deal IMO. I can't imagine going back to tubes just because of the comfy ride without the risk of pinch flats.