Stans Kit and Floor Pump: Is it doable?

[denmother]

Originally Posted by andygua

Maybe it's a good excuse to get an air compressor?

They have great deals on compressors at Lowe's!!!

[Evil Chocula]

Tried it once.. complete nightmare.

[andygua]

Originally Posted by DirtymikeTDB

One more question, did you drill the inner wall of the wheel? and what rim tape are you running underneath the rim strip?

I did drill the inner wall of the wheel...I'm using the stock rim tape, didn't change it to the one provided in Stan's kit.

I'll give it a couple more tries today removing the valve core and if it doesn't work, I think I'll just go and get a compressor.

Will let you know how it goes.

[Zippo]

Switch to the Stans tape - you may be getting air leaks through the stock tape, especially if it's something porous like Velox. And what are you using for a valve stem (I saw that it's schrader & I've only ever seen & used Presta) - did you make your own rim strips?

EDIT: I see now that they do indeed make schrader kits with removable cores.

[andygua]

Did I say schrader? It's presta...sorry!

I'm using the kit's rim strips and as for the tape, Stan recommends to use his only when the stock one is too thick and the strip would go beyond the rim's walls, and this is not the case...

[Zippo]

have you heard the bead "pop" into place on the rim, or are you unable to get enough air into the tire to get it to set? If the tire is too TIGHT, prohibiting the bead from fitting under the bead lock, you need to remove the rim tape (and possibly even the rim strip requiring you to use an Olympic valve stem w/out a rim strip) and use Stans yellow tape. If the tire is too LOOSE you can build up the center of the rim with Velox or a thick rim strip.

It's also entirely possible that the bead on your tires is stretched out. Unless you plan on using a compressor alot, it may be a wi$er purchase to get a new set of tires.

And for unused tires that are stubborn to inflate, mount with a tube to stretch and shape the bead, and then install with tubeless with Stans sealant.

[mt dew]

I just installed two WTB weirwolf tubless tires onto my SLR tubeless wheels last Thursday. I used only a floor pump to get enough air in the wheel, no soap. I set the valve to about 3 or 6 oclock and had the wheel/tire in the upright position. I had my wife help me hold the tire and we got the front on in one try and the rear took about 3 tries. Good Luck!!

[un-kola]

Originally Posted by Shu

I've done a total of 3 wheels and have done all 3 w/ a floor pump and NO soapy water....NO problems at all....bead set easy....

The benefit I noticed was passing all the people on Butcher trail in Downieville fixing flats(easily 10+)....I HATE FIXING flats on the trails...

Gotta agree with ya Shu.I hate getting trailside flats.I've been using tubless(ust),for the past 4-5yrs.On most new tires I can get them to seat with a floor pump and the wheel hanging from a hook.If that fails,out comes th co2.If the tire is a remount,a floor pump has never failed me.- Lloyd

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by andygua

I did drill the inner wall of the wheel...I'm using the stock rim tape, didn't change it to the one provided in Stan's kit.

I'll give it a couple more tries today removing the valve core and if it doesn't work, I think I'll just go and get a compressor.

Will let you know how it goes.

Ok, so thin crappy tape, Try starting over with Velox. Like the instructions say, it will hold the strip closer to the bead, making it easier to seal

Originally Posted by Zippo

Switch to the Stans tape - you may be getting air leaks through the stock tape, especially if it's something porous like Velox. And what are you using for a valve stem (I saw that it's schrader & I've only ever seen & used Presta) - did you make your own rim strips?

EDIT: I see now that they do indeed make schrader kits with removable cores.

The FR and DH kits are both schraeder valves, but the velox tape underneath the rim strip wont make leaks, it just holds the rubber strip a little higher, remember a stans strip goes from bead to bead right over the top of the rim tape.

[1FG rider]

I was doing the Stans conversion one night and it took a long and frustrating time to get any air into the tire. I had to have the tire touching the garage floor just enough so there was equal pressure from the weight of the tire to create a seal. Of course doing that I had to hold the tire just right with one hand and pump with the other

So finally after a good twenty minutes of one handed pumping (yes, insert pun now) I finally get enough pressure where the tire is finally holding air. Now I'm dripping in sweat, out of breath due to exhaustion and frustration and can finally relax a bit. All I have to do now is get the tire bead to seat on the rim by getting a few more PSI in. Max tire pressure shows 65 PSI, no problemo! Getting closer now, 60...61....62, okay there's the pop, bead is now seated. Better put a little more air in, just in case. 63...64...65...6...KAPOW!!! I thought I was hit by a flash/bang grenade. I was stunned for a few minutes and all I could hear now was a high pitched whine. The smell of rubber and Stans sealant permeated my nostrils and in my daze I saw Stans splattered all over the floor and the tire hanging flaccidly from the now distorted rim. ARRRRGGH!!

I'm still hazy on what I did after that. I think I may have dropped everything right there, turned off the lights, plopped down on the sofa and nursed a beer in my stupor.