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Old 06-29-2008, 11:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Crank Bros Vs Time Vs SPD

Looking for comparisons on Float, Engagement, and accidental release. I have always been a CB fan, but cannot get my Candy's too engage for bmx so im going to have to go to something like time's. I have had a few super major knee surgery's so im trying to stay away from the spd's because of the lack of float ? (Should I?)
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I dont know anything about Times but I have "time" on both SPD and CB. I haven't tried the Candy's yet but I've been riding with the CB mallets for Awhile and like them a lot. A little hard to clip out of but reliable and I can use them even if not clipped in. With my old SPDs I had a lot more float but unclipped when I didn't want to more often and the platform I was on wasn't all that great unless I was confirmed clipped in.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Come over tomorrow and you can try all of the different CB pedals. I have the acids,candies,Malletes old and new style.
I personally like the new mallets the most.
I have many SPD pedals also all of them are hanging out in boxes some brand new.


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Looking for comparisons on Float, Engagement, and accidental release. I have always been a CB fan, but cannot get my Candy's too engage for bmx so im going to have to go to something like time's. I have had a few super major knee surgery's so im trying to stay away from the spd's because of the lack of float ? (Should I?)
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Rick, I just switched to Candy pedals from SPD. I like the float on Candy and had to get used to the feeling of not being "locked in" like on SPDs. Engagement is easier on SPDs, but as the cleats wore out, they also became easier to unclip accidentally.

I like being able to adjust the retension force on SPDs. That made them pretty tunable. I am not sure if I am sold on CB over SPD...we'll see.
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:39 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Looking for comparisons on Float, Engagement, and accidental release. I have always been a CB fan, but cannot get my Candy's too engage for bmx so im going to have to go to something like time's. I have had a few super major knee surgery's so im trying to stay away from the spd's because of the lack of float ? (Should I?)

There are Time pedals...............and the rest.

After 5 years mine are finally getting worn out. Yep replacing them with a new set of Times
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Old 06-30-2008, 06:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I loved crank bros, but cant use them on a gate, so thats why I was looking at other stuff, most people are using spd and time, time's seem to have more of the favorable traits of the CB's with an easier step in
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:00 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't know about the others but SPD have single release cleats and multi release cleats. (The multi release have an "M" on the cleats.) They behave differently.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I have ridden and ABused all three of the pedals listed,

Crank Bros....Excellent float, easy on the knees, adjustment free
Cleats wear fairly fast, shed mud well, can be hard to find at times. Have broken three sets of Mallots, snapped spindles so I wouldnt reccomend for bigger riders.

Time.....feel good, engage well, float is nice sturdy pedal, easy in and outs, easy maintanance.

Shimano SPD..... Adjustable release pressure, last forever, Dependable, little less float so if you run these you will want to go to a shop that has the cleat adjustment kit<Goofy Looking stick contraption that goes on your bike you pedal, tech lines up the sticks on the pedals with the ones on your shoes....>If you want more info on this, let me know. doesnt shed mud as well as the others, probably the easiest to find in a panic, platform style of coarse gives you something to stand on when you cant find<Like the Mallot and corosponding Time>. I have yet to see the shimano pedals snap a spindle, bent yes, but never snapped.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I rode SPD for many years and then somehow gave time pedals a try about 2 years ago. The time pedals are now my favorites and I've fully switched over from SPD. They engage/dis-engage easily, are easy on the knees and don't get clogged with mud/dirt.
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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crank bros > spd

time > spd
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Ricky, I saw you crash in your race because of those Crank Bros pedals. That looked painful. I don't blame you for wanting to try something better.

On Saturday there was some poor kid who fell at the track with Candies. The bike was completely flipped over backward, and his foot was facing the wrong direction, and the pedal still didn't release! I had to flip the bike over before I could force his foot out. That release mechanism on those pedals way too stiff. I'm surprised that the kid didn't break his ankle or his leg because of those pedals. Crank Bros pedals apparently do not belong on BMX bikes.

At the state race qualifier yesterday at Orange, I was looking at clipless pedals, and I'd guess that about:
- 75% of the riders use SPDs
- 20% use Times
- 5% use Crank Bros

I will continue to use SPDs. In my opinion, the adjustability, engagement, and release makes them far superior to the others for these conditions (mud is not an issue at So Cal tracks).
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There are Time pedals...............and the rest.

After 5 years mine are finally getting worn out. Yep replacing them with a new set of Times

I knew this was coming. Like a Diesel Locomotive in the distance, it was just a matter of TIME before DeeZee's post made it. Even in the wee hours of the morning.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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How about side to side float I havent used spd's for 8 years I just rember feeling really locked in, I may just grab some spd's on the way to the track
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Ricky, I saw you crash in your race because of those Crank Bros pedals. That looked painful. I don't blame you for wanting to try something better.

On Saturday there was some poor kid who fell at the track with Candies. The bike was completely flipped over backward, and his foot was facing the wrong direction, and the pedal still didn't release! I had to flip the bike over before I could force his foot out. That release mechanism on those pedals way too stiff. I'm surprised that the kid didn't break his ankle or his leg because of those pedals. Crank Bros pedals apparently do not belong on BMX bikes.

At the state race qualifier yesterday at Orange, I was looking at clipless pedals, and I'd guess that about:
- 75% of the riders use SPDs
- 20% use Times
- 5% use Crank Bros

I will continue to use SPDs. In my opinion, the adjustability, engagement, and release makes them far superior to the others for these conditions (mud is not an issue at So Cal tracks).
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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How about side to side float I havent used spd's for 8 years I just rember feeling really locked in, I may just grab some spd's on the way to the track
What do you mean side-to-side float? I can twist my feet in the pedals (I also use multi-release cleats), but they don't move side to side in the pedal, like I'd guess they would with Crank Bros or Times.

BTW, I use the 647 DX platform pedals. The non-platform types don't work for me so well on mtbs or BMX bikes (but work fine on my CX bike).
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I've been considering the atomlab quickstep for my next pedal. I've been using SPD's for years, and they've worked, but I find myself spending more and more time unclipped as they take away my confidence in technical stuff and on descents. The Quicksteps look like an alternative that I'd be willing to give a try. Rode with a D'ville local when we were up there who swears by them.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:58 AM   #16 (permalink)
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rick, i got plenty of spd's you can try....

other than wearing out cleats.. i love em.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I have a set of the "old" style quicksteps I'm willing to sell. They are super easy to get in and out of, and easily have the best platform of any clipless I've used. A skate or bmx style shoe is required. For me they where too hard on my knees while clipped in. I'm sticking with my CB's for now.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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spd's worked alot better for the bmx track today and had enough float to keep my knees happy, Ill still be on CB for my MTB stuff at least for now, no promises though
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Get the Multi release cleats, that will give you a little more float. Glad to hear they worked out well for you at the track, Maybe someone here has them, I mentioned it already, but there is a way to align the cleat to your stride so that you wont ever have to worry about your knees, I know Yucaipa Bike Used to do it when I worked there, not sure if they still do, not to many shops that do.


Basically its a Pedal, and what you do is mount up your cleats with a special long thumb screw, mount these pedals on your bike, put bike in trainer. The pedal has a red stick that sticks out, and the long screws will set into a turn plate which has another stick. What you do from there is Pedal, just keep pedalling, the plate has about 90 degrees of float so its totally free floating while your pedalling, the "fitter watches, from there he/she will turn your cleats on the shoes until the turnplate stick, and the pedal stick are lined up while your pedalling and your legs are in a natural relaxed postion!!!!


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How about side to side float I havent used spd's for 8 years I just rember feeling really locked in, I may just grab some spd's on the way to the track



Quite sure he is just refering to the release float


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What do you mean side-to-side float? I can twist my feet in the pedals (I also use multi-release cleats), but they don't move side to side in the pedal, like I'd guess they would with Crank Bros or Times.

BTW, I use the 647 DX platform pedals. The non-platform types don't work for me so well on mtbs or BMX bikes (but work fine on my CX bike).
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