El Dood's DIY Corner: Headset Stuff

[bajamtnbkr]

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

I would take an old chain and break it around a foot. Get a 3/4" dowel about a 8" long and drill a couple of holes so that you could attach your piece of chain to it with a couple of screws and washers. The screws would go through the chain where teeth would go, and the chain would be attached where there's a longer piece on one side of the attachment and a shorter (about half the longer side) piece on the other.

But, I don't know if you'd save any money with the effort. I have a cheap-a$$ spin dr. and it has worked well for me.

Brain you are my hero, I bet you can take apart a diesel engine, bare-handed while babysitting.

[JOx2]

another good one by eld00derific!!!

Hopefully mods can compile all DIY's and be sticky'ed.

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

both....

So, you have parts from two headsets?

Aheadsets, are loose bearing's. Cartridge headsets use sealed bearings.

[OldDogDan]

Originally Posted by foofighter

OK next DIY topic idea...how to remove the rear cassette without the chain whip tool thingy

A plumber's strap wrench is cheap and works great.

And on occasion I've just jammed the cassette teeth in a piece of soft pine 2 x 4. But doesn't always grip enough on a stubborn one. The strap wrench is about 1/3 a chain whip price.

[.8down]

cool, Im glad you did the split pipe headset removal thing, I was wondering if that was gonna work

[el_d00der1n0]

Originally Posted by DirtymikeTDB

So, you have parts from two headsets?

Aheadsets, are loose bearing's. Cartridge headsets use sealed bearings.

well, the bearings come out of the cups if that's what you mean, but the old headset had bearings that you could see the balls. this headset comes with sealed cartridge bearings that go in the cups.

Originally Posted by .8down

cool, Im glad you did the split pipe headset removal thing, I was wondering if that was gonna work

oh yeah, thanks for posting that. i can't take credit for the idea. it worked really well. i was concerned it wouldn't contact the inside properly, but it seated rather nicely.

[ChipsandSalsa]

Dooder,

Do you have any interest in a conducting a tutorial on wheel building?

[el_d00der1n0]

Originally Posted by ChipsandSalsa

Dooder,

Do you have any interest in a conducting a tutorial on wheel building?

I did this one, but not really a tutorial.
First Run at Wheelbuilding

[PacMan]

Originally Posted by 92se-r

I'd recommend the rubber mallot and wood block method for the cups though. Much cooler and easier. I tried the washer method and didn't like how it worked. I've done about a half dozen headsets now with the mallot and wood block method. Works awesome.

That's exactly what I use. It works awesome. A friend asked me to help him install a headset once "because he knew I had the tools since I had done my own numerous times." I pulled out the "tools"--block of 2x4 and a mallet. He got worried and asked me if it would damage the headset, bike frame or fork. I reminded him that wood is softer than metal (duh) and less the 5 minutes later the cups and fork race were in.

We also use a wedge shaped block to remove the cups and fork races and that works great too.

[PacMan]

Originally Posted by foofighter

OK next DIY topic idea...how to remove the rear cassette without the chain whip tool thingy

You can make your own with an old section of chain and small/skinny Phillips screwdriver. Run the screwdriver through both ends and that's it. I have the proper tool at home but have used this method a few times. Works like a charm.

[foofighter]

cool thanks man

[.8down]

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

well, the bearings come out of the cups if that's what you mean, but the old headset had bearings that you could see the balls. this headset comes with sealed cartridge bearings that go in the cups.



oh yeah, thanks for posting that. i can't take credit for the idea. it worked really well. i was concerned it wouldn't contact the inside properly, but it seated rather nicely.

yeah some random guy posting on DIY.com wont make me go out and do it but thankfully you like to take chances...

[DirtymikeTDB]

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

well, the bearings come out of the cups if that's what you mean, but the old headset had bearings that you could see the balls. this headset comes with sealed cartridge bearings that go in the cups.
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Ok, then its Not an Aheadset, Its a sealed headset. which is good, but Aheadsets are the nonsealed type like you had!!!

I like your ingenuity, your remover you made is pretty much exactly what the tool actually is, the washer trick is far better than using a hammer and a block of wood. But I would go after using PVC pipe for the race installer!!!

[el_d00der1n0]

Originally Posted by DirtymikeTDB

Ok, then its Not an Aheadset, Its a sealed headset. which is good, but Aheadsets are the nonsealed type like you had!!!

I like your ingenuity, your remover you made is pretty much exactly what the tool actually is, the washer trick is far better than using a hammer and a block of wood. But I would go after using PVC pipe for the race installer!!!

But it says "Aheadset" on it???

The mallet and wood concerns me because you won't have much opportunity to make sure it goes in straight if it's tight in there.

I couldn't find PVC that I thought would fit right. The ID on 1 1/4 was just a little big when I was at the hardware store. The galvanized hasn't hurt anything yet, the clearances are very close, and it has some weight, so all you have to do is drop it like once.

[BFloFoxRider.]

So while we are on the headset thing, yesterday in the shop, and old lady brought in a really old tricycle for kids, that had a bike seat in the back but also a small seat. The kids this was made for must be tiny, but anyways, she wanted us to fix it because the handlebars and wheel were moving alot. We took a look at it and found out that the plastic spacer that acted somewhat as a headset had snapped and did not exist anymore.. well we took it apart and figured out a way to fix it. Then we had an idea, we got a 1" headset, and looked at it, it looked a little too big but heck, we tried it.. A couple twists of the tool and that sucker popped in. We're talking upwards of a 40 year old trike with a Headset on it! it worked flawlessly and the bars are awesome now. We also found spacers to fix the front wheel from moving side to side as you pedal. We were all kind of skeptical of the whole headset thing, but it worked well and surprised us all.

[Abui]

Originally Posted by el_d00der1n0

But it says "Aheadset" on it???

The mallet and wood concerns me because you won't have much opportunity to make sure it goes in straight if it's tight in there.

The thread and washer device can go off center unless you have a washer that matches the inside diameter of the headset. Chris King has their very own adapter for the purpose (it has to not touch the already installed bearings)

[un-kola]

Originally Posted by BFloFoxRider.

So while we are on the headset thing, yesterday in the shop, and old lady brought in a really old tricycle for kids, that had a bike seat in the back but also a small seat. The kids this was made for must be tiny, but anyways, she wanted us to fix it because the handlebars and wheel were moving alot. We took a look at it and found out that the plastic spacer that acted somewhat as a headset had snapped and did not exist anymore.. well we took it apart and figured out a way to fix it. Then we had an idea, we got a 1" headset, and looked at it, it looked a little too big but heck, we tried it.. A couple twists of the tool and that sucker popped in. We're talking upwards of a 40 year old trike with a Headset on it! it worked flawlessly and the bars are awesome now. We also found spacers to fix the front wheel from moving side to side as you pedal. We were all kind of skeptical of the whole headset thing, but it worked well and surprised us all.

Old ladies and 40y/o trikes huh? Why you young little.....when ya gonna learn,old guys rule! (good job fixing the trike.)- Lloyd

[el_d00der1n0]

Originally Posted by Abui

The thread and washer device can go off center unless you have a washer that matches the inside diameter of the headset. Chris King has their very own adapter for the purpose (it has to not touch the already installed bearings)

Yeah, but you get a little more opportunity to correct it right? I have some bushings, a piece of cut steer tube, and bought more washers so I could guide better this time, but the cups went in a little too easily. I just cranked them down a touch to make sure they were in all of the way.

[BFloFoxRider.]

Originally Posted by un-kola

Old ladies and 40y/o trikes huh? Why you young little.....when ya gonna learn,old guys rule! (good job fixing the trike.)- Lloyd

Hard to believe, i didnt fix it myself it was actually my boss that toyed with it he jsut let me sitch and watch (and i held the Headset pressing tool for a second )
and actually, alot of the older ladies seem to like us for wahtever reason. We had a ~33 year old mom that was looking for a cruiser bike to ride around the streets with her kids and i told her she should get a 3 spd since we offer lifetime service which includes free gear adjustments, so she'd get more for her money if she got one and brought it in every few weeks so we can adjust everything.
She then said she had gone to 4 other shops and i was by far the most help. All i did was answer her questions though...
Oh then i went on and said something like
"Wow NO other shops in the area could answer your questions and help you out? I guesss a 15 year old knows best " she was also surprised when i told her we could order anything in the catalogs i gave her and it would take ~1 week to recieve and build it unless they could not ship for some reason.
Im gettting better at this job