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Old 05-19-2008, 09:27 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Buy the 5 arm Race face cranks from Shu...then finding 20 tooth and different chain rings sizes are easy. Or just buy ti, nothing wrong with that.

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Old 05-19-2008, 09:31 AM   #22 (permalink)
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do you really need a 20T granny? i suck balls at climbing and i like having the 22T since it is easy enough to still pedal up steep hills and i'm moving faster than others on little wheels when they are in the granny gear
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:02 AM   #23 (permalink)
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do you really need a 20T granny? i suck balls at climbing and i like having the 22T since it is easy enough to still pedal up steep hills and i'm moving faster than others on little wheels when they are in the granny gear
I want to maximize the spread of gear ratios. Right now I am running 22-32. Ideally I would like to run 20-36 or 20-34.

I doubt I will use the granny ring to big cog that much, but I want more gear choices all around.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:52 AM   #24 (permalink)
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you want USABLE gearing.

you just said you wont ever use 20-34 in the back... so why even have it? why not liek 24 granny? you lose just a tad of your grunt gear. and you could run a 36 middle
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:56 AM   #25 (permalink)
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you want USABLE gearing.

you just said you wont ever use 20-34 in the back... so why even have it? why not liek 24 granny? you lose just a tad of your grunt gear. and you could run a 36 middle
I said I doubt I would use it that much. I didn't say I won't ever use it. Learn to read Chewy. I know, you go to Pomona, but they must have hooked on phonics in their library for special kids like you.

I am sure there are some really shitty climbs out there that would get me to use 20-34 gearing. It would be nice to have at those points.
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I said I doubt I would use it that much. I didn't say I won't ever use it. Learn to read Chewy. I know, you go to Pomona, but they must have hooked on phonics in their library for special kids like you.

I am sure there are some really shitty climbs out there that would get me to use 20-34 gearing. It would be nice to have at those points.
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ok.. well here is my thought process. You have cleaned everything we have ridden with 22 granny and 34 cog. So keep that then, and go to a 34 middle ring? or maybe a 36 if you could get a derailer to hop that.
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:07 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You never know what beastly hill is around the corner...
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:08 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You never know what beastly hill is around the corner...

i cleaned your lady lumps in middle ring....
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I was thinking 26-36 or 38, does the spot lite bash clear 36 I really would like to not buy a new one
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:08 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Running 24-36 on my Pitch with a Truvativ Stylo AM crankset and love it. Have never wanted for a higher or lower gear. I plan to switch my other bike to the same setup someday.
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Old 05-19-2008, 01:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I run and like 20 tooth grannies. It is not getting up a steep hill it is keeping the pedals moving after 30+ miles and 8 hours in the saddle. You don't have to use it but it is there if you need it. I sometimes use a 30 tooth middle ring...keeps the chain in the middle of the cassette 80% of a ride keeping a good chainline. I have a 20-30-40 spare Middleburn crankset set I use on some rides, most of the time it is 20-32-bash. All my bikes including my SS are square taper with self extractors so it is easy and fast to change gearing.

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Old 05-19-2008, 02:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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who are you trying to fool Dean, you like to run a 20T granny so you can chat with hikers on climbs
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:25 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I run 22/36 on the X-5 and couldn't be happier with it. Great combo for me, and the 14 tooth jump has not been an issue whatsoever.

Currently running XT cranks & rings, but previously ran the same combo on an Atlas/ Blackspire setup and had zero problems there as well. Derailleur is an XT top pull, bottom swing.
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I also run a 22T and 36T up front (shimano LX derailleur) and it works fine (Race Face cranks/Chainring)
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Old 05-19-2008, 04:56 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I think you might have a difficult time moving the chain up to the big ring with such a disparity in size.
Most derailleurs can accommodate a 16 tooth difference, so 22 to 38 should work. If you can get a bash guard on it that will help too.
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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interestingly, I have never found much need for a gearing lower that 22-32. But then again, I tend to be a bit of a masher, and I run 180mm cranks which gives me a bit more torque. I do understand the idea of having a lower gear for the possibility of needing it, But I figure I may as well just get that little bit stronger and deal with a slightly taller gear. I'll end up getting up the climb faster anyway, which is always a bonus
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:17 PM   #37 (permalink)
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interestingly, I have never found much need for a gearing lower that 22-32.
For me it has a lot to do with the elevation. I like my 20 tooth gear when I have been climbing for 4 hours on a 34 lbs bike getting to the top of a 10-11k peak. Depends where you like to ride. My afterwork spins around Laguna all I need is my 32x20 Niner Rigid Singlespeed.

Locally: Go climb Clarks Grade in Big Bear then tell me you wish you didn't have a smaller granny gear. Remember we are talking 29ers here, gearing is different.

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:36 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Anyone seen a 20T 64mm BDC 4 bolt ring to put on my Race Face Evolve cranks? All I get when searching the intarweb is titantium speciality rings.
ActionTec makes a Ti one for 52 bucks and a heat treated ti one for 75 bucks.

I want to run one with a 34 or 36 as well.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:40 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Am I the only dude that uses big/little (42-11) on a regular basis?!
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:09 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I had a 22/38 combo for a very long time, At one time I had an LX front derailer, then I had an XT, then I had an X7, then it was Xgen.... guess what, they all shifted just fine, Basically I needed My ride to be able to climb, just like what your looking for Rock... I had for the small ring, a simple RF 22 ring, and since its tough to find a ramped 38 tooth, I took a 38 tooth 5 mm aluminum Azonic DH ring, and Put it on the lathe, shaved just a touch on the inside so it would fit and Blamo.... working system.

Now ther are 38tooth ramped rings out there, they are a bit costly, but if you have a ramped andf pinned ring, it will work much better. Now I am currently running a 22/36 combo, I lost a couple teeth on my ring, and I havent taken the time to get/find/mod another 38 middle ring. Still even jumping 14 teeth, it shifts excellent now, but thats probably due to having a ramped and pinned ring now.


My suggestion, If your going to run a 2ring/bash system, stick with E13 DRS for a guide, simple setup, and they work friggin awesome. If your going to be at the next Fontana race, your welcome to check my system out.
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