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L8 APEKS · 05-15-2008, 05:26 PM

Ok, this is flippin' ridiculous.

I have a Sun wheelset, and IRC Mythos XC (Kevlar) 2.1" tires. The tires do say "To fit HB-575 rim" whatever that means.

The tire is pretty close to impossible to fit on the rim all the way; obviously it's been done before as I was riding on it, but I seriously don't know how.

I replaced a tube and the "tight" section of bead that won't seat on the rim is about 8" long. Niether my standard levers nor my Quickstik are doing any good. I am trying to muscle it on using the "indian burn" method and I'm getting blisters on my hands.

Any pointers?!

skate · 05-15-2008, 05:32 PM

soap and water on the tire and the rim usually helps me put on even the toughest tires or new tires.

dstepper · 05-15-2008, 05:32 PM

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...y.aspx?sc=FRGL

Dean

northshore · 05-15-2008, 05:32 PM

I have those exact same tires. I had to use two tire levers on my DT540s before.

Just sorta inched it along.

L8 APEKS · 05-15-2008, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstepper

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/TL401I14-Intense+Dh+Tire+Levers+Alloy.aspx?sc=FRGL

Dean

Metal levers? Aren't those going to scratch the heck out of the rim?!

CPATCRASH · 05-15-2008, 05:48 PM

Hope you never get a flat on the trail!

mtbchip · 05-15-2008, 05:57 PM

Wow. I use those tires frequently w/out that problem. Mavic X517 rims. No air in the tube and pinch them toward the center (as I'm sure you know this) and pull a bit. I actually sit on my hin'ne, bare foot, holding the rim with my toes and pull the tire up and around the rim to get as much slack as possible. Weird. I had a set of Intense 2.25 that I could NOT get on my rims.....

Good luck.....

HELLDOG · 05-15-2008, 05:58 PM

Make sure all of the air (if any) is out of the tube. Also, try to get the portion of the tire that is on the rim towards the center. I usually pinch the tire together with both hands while wiggling back and forth. And then go back to the portion that is not set and give it one more try. (hope that makes since) A good set of tire levers will help as well. I like PEDROS levers. they are very strong. GOOD LUCK.

L8 APEKS · 05-15-2008, 06:00 PM

Well, apparently, spit is good all sorts of places.

Lubricated the Quikstik and was able to pop it in. You can quote me on that.

Thank you guys!

dstepper · 05-15-2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

Metal levers? Aren't those going to scratch the heck out of the rim?!

You're right it could scratch, don't care, it is not like I don't already have bunch of dents and scratches in my rims.

Hanzo · 05-16-2008, 07:12 AM

I got something similar to what Dean mentioned. I got Soma tire irons at the Path. Its plastic on the outside and metal on the inside just in case youre worried scratching your rims. FWIW I snapped 2 of those Pedros tire irons trying to mount Maxxis Highrollers on Sun rims.

Kid A · 05-16-2008, 07:17 AM

u will never get that 26 tire on a 29'r rim

Pickettt · 05-16-2008, 07:20 AM

HB stands for "Hook Bead", we know them as "clinchers". As for the 575, a typical mountain bike rim is about 575 mm in diameter. I know none of this helps you mount a tire, but there it is.

L8 APEKS · 05-16-2008, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

u will never get that 26 tire on a 29'r rim

That's ok. The 29 fad will die before I have to replace these tires.

FatPossum · 05-16-2008, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by northshore

I have those exact same tires. I had to use two tire levers on my DT540s before.

Just sorta inched it along.

+1 on the two levers

I never have- but have heard of others people using the soap and water technique.

Hope you get it on soon!

kevinator · 05-16-2008, 08:23 AM

2 yellow Pedro's levers. And wear some glasses - I've almost been blinded by little plastic missiles from levers disintegrating.

davidB · 05-16-2008, 08:33 AM

don't feel bad, i have a popped blister on each thumb from when i took forever to get SM8's onto Stan's Arches. God help me if i ever have to do that again.

station · 05-16-2008, 08:33 AM

run a bead of spit on the edge. If you're on the trail have your buddy yell cougar! You'll pop that tire right on.

kevinator · 05-16-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by station

run a bead of spit on the edge. If you're on the trail have your buddy yell cougar! You'll pop that tire right on.

how about "cougar shirt!"

TooManyTacos · 05-16-2008, 08:42 AM

Yeah, this seems to be an issue with some of the Sun brand rims. I've had similar problems with getting the last part of the bead on my Rhynolite XL and MTX rims. Same tires on Mavic rims are just fine. It's kind of annoying, but now that I know what to expect, I can mentally prepare myself.

05-15-2008, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
L8 APEKS I'm a FUN-GI!	So...apparently I can't change a tire... Ok, this is flippin' ridiculous. I have a Sun wheelset, and IRC Mythos XC (Kevlar) 2.1" tires. The tires do say "To fit HB-575 rim" whatever that means. The tire is pretty close to impossible to fit on the rim all the way; obviously it's been done before as I was riding on it, but I seriously don't know how. I replaced a tube and the "tight" section of bead that won't seat on the rim is about 8" long. Niether my standard levers nor my Quickstik are doing any good. I am trying to muscle it on using the "indian burn" method and I'm getting blisters on my hands. Any pointers?! __________________ -Sean - Founding Member of the DNF-6 Race Team! 2007 KHS XC204 :: ...and a pair of Chevro-legs! "Justin had a warm spicy sausage...which I slowly munched on while I sipped Perpetuem and Pepsi." - Allison

05-15-2008, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
dstepper Over the Hill	http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...y.aspx?sc=FRGL Dean __________________ If I'm not lost or getting bushwacked, the trail was too easy. Prescott Valley Houses The Path

05-15-2008, 05:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
northshore Aloha Brah!	I have those exact same tires. I had to use two tire levers on my DT540s before. Just sorta inched it along. __________________ Hawaiian Island Creations Ride it: dw-link.com/reasons

05-15-2008, 05:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
CPATCRASH Geddyup!	Hope you never get a flat on the trail! __________________ Cowboy. http://www.thepathbikeshop.com/ Daily thought: some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs!

05-15-2008, 06:00 PM	#9 (permalink)
L8 APEKS I'm a FUN-GI!	Well, apparently, spit is good all sorts of places. Lubricated the Quikstik and was able to pop it in. You can quote me on that. Thank you guys! __________________ -Sean - Founding Member of the DNF-6 Race Team! 2007 KHS XC204 :: ...and a pair of Chevro-legs! "Justin had a warm spicy sausage...which I slowly munched on while I sipped Perpetuem and Pepsi." - Allison

05-15-2008, 05:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
skate Senior Member	soap and water on the tire and the rim usually helps me put on even the toughest tires or new tires.

05-15-2008, 05:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
mtbchip Karnivore	Wow. I use those tires frequently w/out that problem. Mavic X517 rims. No air in the tube and pinch them toward the center (as I'm sure you know this) and pull a bit. I actually sit on my hin'ne, bare foot, holding the rim with my toes and pull the tire up and around the rim to get as much slack as possible. Weird. I had a set of Intense 2.25 that I could NOT get on my rims..... Good luck.....

05-15-2008, 05:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
HELLDOG Member	Make sure all of the air (if any) is out of the tube. Also, try to get the portion of the tire that is on the rim towards the center. I usually pinch the tire together with both hands while wiggling back and forth. And then go back to the portion that is not set and give it one more try. (hope that makes since) A good set of tire levers will help as well. I like PEDROS levers. they are very strong. GOOD LUCK.

05-16-2008, 07:17 AM	#12 (permalink)
Kid A found my special purpose	u will never get that 26 tire on a 29'r rim __________________ RIP: Taco Tuesday Funky Bunch Calling all Freaks -> http://www.socaltrailriders.org/foru...funkathon.html

05-16-2008, 07:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Pickettt Senior Member	HB stands for "Hook Bead", we know them as "clinchers". As for the 575, a typical mountain bike rim is about 575 mm in diameter. I know none of this helps you mount a tire, but there it is.

05-16-2008, 08:23 AM	#16 (permalink)
kevinator Senile Member	2 yellow Pedro's levers. And wear some glasses - I've almost been blinded by little plastic missiles from levers disintegrating. __________________ Expensive Lightweight Shit

05-16-2008, 08:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
davidB Pedal Damn It	don't feel bad, i have a popped blister on each thumb from when i took forever to get SM8's onto Stan's Arches. God help me if i ever have to do that again. __________________ My SponsorHouse www.thepathbikeshop.com

05-16-2008, 08:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
station Is this thing on?	run a bead of spit on the edge. If you're on the trail have your buddy yell cougar! You'll pop that tire right on.

05-16-2008, 08:42 AM	#20 (permalink)
TooManyTacos Or Not Enough	Yeah, this seems to be an issue with some of the Sun brand rims. I've had similar problems with getting the last part of the bead on my Rhynolite XL and MTX rims. Same tires on Mavic rims are just fine. It's kind of annoying, but now that I know what to expect, I can mentally prepare myself.

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