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Old 05-12-2008, 12:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think I'm in over my head with these next few questions but just bear with me:

Situation: Yesterday in my persuit for Single Speed bliss I took off all deraileurs, shifters, and my cassette. The shifter and deraileurs came off without a hitch and so did my cassette but I got kind of sketched out when a piece of my Hadley hub started coming off with it. I used a chain whip and the spline tool on the lockring to take off the cassette so I know I did that right.

This is the piece that was coming off my hub with the cassette:


Not sure if its supposed to come off like that but I managed to get some dirt in there and now I'm freaking out. This area being one of them:


I found this website on how to basically overhaul the rear Hadley hub.
http://www.sicklines.com/tech/howto/hadleyoverhaul/

So my basic question is how do I clean my rear hub and put it back together? I've been over the tutorial about 3 times but I'm at school so I'm trying to inform myself as much as possible before I tackle this some time this week when I get home. Also do any shops carry the special Hadley grease mentioned in the article? I read some mtbr posts that said you could use regular 10w oil.

If I have to take it in to a shop I will but I'm trying to learn how to wrench on my own bike and not sure if this is one of those parts that I want to mess with or not.

Sorry once again for the disorganized thought process.
*Those pictures are not from my hub just took them off the website.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Look at the first and second picture at that link...

You should have needed a spanner to get that axle nut off (the one (little teeth and dimples) that mates to the inside of the frame when in the bike drop outs)...

Sounds like that spun off in the process somehow which means that it wasn't on there tight enough to start with. You should be able to remove the cassette without that happening.

Put it back together so it doesn't all fall apart and then spin that axle nut back on and go by your LBS and have the thing tightened correctly...unless you have that spanner tool and you can do it yourself.

As for the dirt, just wipe it out and if you have good grease regrease the inside where the pawls (the spring loaded teeth) engage, just don't overdo it or you'll have other problems like the hub not engaging.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Use a clean cloth/rag, wipe the dirt dust off from the OUTSIDE of the hub, leave the grease that is on the inside there and slap it back together.

To tighten it properly you will need a thin 21mm wrench and a park tool SPA2 I believe.

If you really want to wipe the grease off and re-lube everything then give Hadley a call and ask what they use. I have some grease I use but if I recommend it and your hubs gets screwed that would not be good as I tear mine down a lot.
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Use a clean cloth/rag, wipe the dirt dust off from the OUTSIDE of the hub, leave the grease that is on the inside there and slap it back together.

To tighten it properly you will need a thin 21mm wrench and a park tool SPA2 I believe.

If you really want to wipe the grease off and re-lube everything then give Hadley a call and ask what they use. I have some grease I use but if I recommend it and your hubs gets screwed that would not be good as I tear mine down a lot.
I typically would like to set it and forget it as I don't wrench too much on my bike. But I'm trying to change that since I want to become proficeint in bike-ology. I will go home and take a look at it once again but I feel like a dissasembly and regreasing is in order since I'm not sure where the dirt got into the hub. I'll have to give hadley a call then for that grease.

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Look at the first and second picture at that link...

You should have needed a spanner to get that axle nut off (the one (little teeth and dimples) that mates to the inside of the frame when in the bike drop outs)...

Sounds like that spun off in the process somehow which means that it wasn't on there tight enough to start with. You should be able to remove the cassette without that happening.

Put it back together so it doesn't all fall apart and then spin that axle nut back on and go by your LBS and have the thing tightened correctly...unless you have that spanner tool and you can do it yourself.

As for the dirt, just wipe it out and if you have good grease regrease the inside where the pawls (the spring loaded teeth) engage, just don't overdo it or you'll have other problems like the hub not engaging.
I think it was just loose because I didn't try to loosen the hub and it just came off I didn't use a spanner tool either. I'll get home and take some pics just so you guys can see what my situation is.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Most shops I have been to carry the Park SPA-2 and a 20mm cone wrench you can grind to 21mm. You can use a grinder and slim down a 21mm craftsman wrench but it is a pain.

There is also the option of purchasing a thin SnapOn 21mm but that would run you close to if not 100$

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Old 05-12-2008, 01:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The cassette remover tool got stuck to the part of the axle that holds everything together. The part kind of sticks to the tool and backed out when you unthreaded the cassette lockring off. This happens a lot with Hadley hubs if you're not paying attention. You should be able to just put it together again.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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The cassette remover tool got stuck to the part of the axle that holds everything together. The part kind of sticks to the tool and backed out when you unthreaded the cassette lockring off. This happens a lot with Hadley hubs if you're not paying attention. You should be able to just put it together again.
I think you hit the nail on the head. I kind of figured thats what happened because I didn't try to loosen that piece on the hub but when I took off the lock ring it kind of felt like it was stuck on something. Must have been that piece on the hub which loosened up.

So should I just clean everything up, re grease and tighten everything back up? If so still need to get the grease.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You could probably just clean the areas where you got any dirt. If nothing was exposed to dirt, you could just put it together. If you use grease that is too thick, the pawls in the freehub could stick. That's hard on the knees.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Figured everything out and it is in working order. Thanks for your guys help.
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