Zion frames run large???

[Rockinthecasbah]

So we rode sycamore today and I brought out my Zion I like the bike at the loop but I hate it for techincal stuff, not because its a hardtail but because I feel like im way to high up on it and it has a tendancy to nose dive( well i have trouble getting the fron end up.) I drop the stem from 110mm to 90mm today and it still feels like it could use something? I just dont feel in control on that bike like i do on my other bikes is this typical for a 29er? Im thinking about getting rid of it as a frame/fork/wheel package and transfering the parts to a 26er fr
ps im 5'7" with a 30" in seam

[foofighter]

maybe you're not setup properly on the bike? because on my 26'er and 29'er zion i was able to finesse the bike on some technical rock outcroppings. the 29'er does sit a wee bit higher for obvious reasons...dont give up on it yet

[Chewyeti]

i ride L or XL 26er's....

but my large zion 'ziner' fits big. Just takes some time getting it all dialed.

[Rockinthecasbah]

im gonna take some time getting her "dialed in"

... i am now on the market for a small zion 737 frame lol

[foofighter]

bikes is like moving in with someone...you have to acquainted with one another before you kick her out

[Rockinthecasbah]

ha ha thats for sure hopefully just the frame is getting kicked out , jensons is out of the geared model

[Rockinthecasbah]

how does niner's sizing run??

[Pho'dUp]

Zions run a little bit a little on the long side. My large 19" Kona has and effective top tube of 24". My Zion is 24.5".

Actually, I think the Niner's geometry is pretty close to Zion's.


Zion 737EBB Geometry

S M L
Effective Top Tube 23.1" 23.7" 24.55"
Seat Tube (center of BB to top of seat collar) 16.75" 17.75" 19.75"
Standover Height 27.75" 28.75" 30"
Head Angle 71 72 72
Seat Angle 74.5 73.5 73.5
Head Tube 3.15" 3.54" 3.93"
Wheelbase 42.5" 42.75" 43"
Chainstay 17.3" 17.3" 17.3"
Weight 5.0 lbs 5.2 lbs 5.4 lbs

[Rockinthecasbah]

dang zions are done, and all jensons has left is EBB bikes maybe i could make a hanger but i might be better off just looking for something different its not the cockpit thats killing me its the standover so its not really something i can fix with stem bars etc

[genusmtbkr5]

Ricky, I'm 5'7" and I would be riding a small Zion if I had one. You should ride someone's small 29er to see the difference.

[Rockinthecasbah]

im going to be hopping on all the niners i can find until i buy a new frame i wish i would have put more thought into my frame beofre i bought the medium

[BrewMaster]

I think SDYeti and speckledtrout have small Niners.

Standover clearance on my Large Niner is a bit tight, but I guess that's incentive to ride instead of stand still.

[dudevf1]

I ride a Fisher 29er HT and I feel very comfortable on it. I am 5'11" and it's a large frame. Maybe try a low riser bar if you don't have one already? My riding position is farther back once I put on the riser bar. Mine feels stable even with a flat bar but I prefer more upright position.