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Old 04-10-2008, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Pike Coil spring rate when travel is reduced

I had a Pike Coil U-Turn on my big bike, but got a sick deal on a Dual Air, so the Coil is going on my 100mm travel bike so I can take advantage of the 20mm axle. Does the spring rate or compression change when the travel is wound down from 140mm to 100?
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Yes, as you lower the fork, the coil spring gets stiffer.
See page 6 http://www.sram.com/_media/techdocs/07%20PikeRebaRevelationDomainArgyle.pdf under Coil Spring Tuning.
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Thanks, good to know!
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Old 04-10-2008, 02:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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F = KX

F = force of the spring
K = spring coefficient
X = deviation (distance) from natural at rest spring length

so yes... squished spring = more force
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F = KX

F = force of the spring
K = spring coefficient
X = deviation (distance) from natural at rest spring length

so yes... squished spring = more force
The U-Turn system does not squish the spring. It is not a preload mechanism.

Instead of using the full length of the spring, the U-Turn adjustment mechanism essentially engages the spring somewhere in the middle, rather than at the ends when the fork is at full height. So because you're compressing a shorter length of the same spring, the spring rate is higher.
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oh that makes sense... good to know
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