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Evil Chocula · 03-29-2008, 01:17 PM

Here's the equation:

29" Rampage + Stan's No Tubes + American Classics =

NIGHTMARE.

I'd explain more, but I have to go kill myself. Thank you.

thephat · 03-29-2008, 01:26 PM

Stanz conversions always have the potential for adventure. Some rim and tire combos are worse than others. There is always somone who has "never had a problem"(with such and such combo). Then there is always somone who did have a problem. Just because you have never had a problem does not mean that you never will.

I like stanz, but I have been yelled at more than once by angry customers after I sold them Stanz.

Big Guy · 03-29-2008, 03:33 PM

I am trying it on my new wheels (being built now) but they are Stan wheels. I hope I will be in the "never had problem" group. I will keep you posted.

Evil Chocula · 03-29-2008, 03:38 PM

Thanks.. the bead just will not sit in the rim.

thephat · 03-29-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Guy

I am trying it on my new wheels (being built now) but they are Stan wheels. I hope I will be in the "never had problem" group. I will keep you posted.

Results are much better if you use his rims, and not just a conversion kit.

J_Sims · 03-29-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thephat

Results are much better if you use his rims, and not just a conversion kit.

Truer words have never been spoken..

My successes

Arch's/Rampages on the RIP9 Never had a problem
355's/Specialized Resolution/Captain DOS never had a problem
Arches/Specialized Resolution/Captain SS Never Had a prob

My Failure
Salsa Delgado X's Listed on No Tubes dot com as recomended/Specialized Reso/Captain/Stan's Kit BOOM in the back of the car Stantastic fo sho

thephat · 03-30-2008, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Sims

Truer words have never been spoken..

My successes

Arch's/Rampages on the RIP9 Never had a problem
355's/Specialized Resolution/Captain DOS never had a problem
Arches/Specialized Resolution/Captain SS Never Had a prob

My Failure
Salsa Delgado X's Listed on No Tubes dot com as recomended/Specialized Reso/Captain/Stan's Kit BOOM in the back of the car Stantastic fo sho

and you didn't even yell at me after...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

Thanks.. the bead just will not sit in the rim.

Have you tried leaving it aired up with a tube overnight first?

How about soapy watter on the bead?

You can put some weather stripping under the rim strip. This creates a tighter fit, and helps with inflation.

J_Sims · 03-30-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thephat

and you didn't even yell at me after...

How could I, you were busy lacing up my new Arch's to some Hopes while I waited

Evil Chocula · 03-30-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thephat

Have you tried leaving it aired up with a tube overnight first?

How about soapy watter on the bead?

You can put some weather stripping under the rim strip. This creates a tighter fit, and helps with inflation.

did not try leaving a tube in overnight... I'll try that tonight. I did use soapy water though... is that supposed to help it seal?

JOx2 · 03-30-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Sims

How could I, you were busy lacing up my new Arch's to some Hopes while I waited

smart move after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chocula

did not try leaving a tube in overnight... I'll try that tonight. I did use soapy water though... is that supposed to help it seal?

supposed to help the bead sit on the rim, pump it out you should hear the beads setting.

Big Guy · 03-30-2008, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Sims

How could I, you were busy lacing up my new Arch's to some Hopes while I waited

I am getting the Flow with Hopes.

Pho'dUp · 03-30-2008, 12:22 PM

Choc are you using a compressor to air up or a floor pump? Unless your tire is a super tight fit on the rim e.g. Bonty DryX tires on Stan's. You probably can't get it to seat and air up with a floor pump.

Also make sure the valve stem you are using is tight so the there's no leak there either.

Evil Chocula · 03-30-2008, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pho'dUp

Choc are you using a compressor to air up or a floor pump? Unless your tire is a super tight fit on the rim e.g. Bonty DryX tires on Stan's. You probably can't get it to seat and air up with a floor pump.

Also make sure the valve stem you are using is tight so the there's no leak there either.

LOL.. floor pump. And, I was doing it in the shower (soapy water), so the I had to hold it off the ground!

So, far from ideal. The guy who sold me the bike is going to hook it up for me.

JOx2 · 03-30-2008, 06:07 PM

a spray bottle filled with soapy water is fine, no need to do it in the shower.

bikeadict · 03-31-2008, 08:37 PM

I've managed to seat a weirwolf LT in the arch with a floor pump and yellow tape

However, trying to mount my rampage to a Velocity Dyad has given me some problems. I ended up going with the 29er rim strip over top of a regular rim strip. I siliconed the valve in. I have to use a CO2 cartridge to get it to seat, but after that I can pump it up with a floor pump to keep pressure and work the stans magic to get it to seal.

I have to say though that the shot of gas to get it to seat is imperative. Either through an air compressor or whatever.

03-29-2008, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Evil Chocula ah buh bye now	PSA: Panaracer 29" Rampages and Stan's Here's the equation: 29" Rampage + Stan's No Tubes + American Classics = NIGHTMARE. I'd explain more, but I have to go kill myself. Thank you. __________________ Gone for good. PEACE.

03-29-2008, 03:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
Big Guy Senior Member	I am trying it on my new wheels (being built now) but they are Stan wheels. I hope I will be in the "never had problem" group. I will keep you posted. __________________ Gravity is on my side

03-29-2008, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Evil Chocula ah buh bye now	Thanks.. the bead just will not sit in the rim. __________________ Gone for good. PEACE.

03-30-2008, 12:22 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pho'dUp I made a Taco this big!	Choc are you using a compressor to air up or a floor pump? Unless your tire is a super tight fit on the rim e.g. Bonty DryX tires on Stan's. You probably can't get it to seat and air up with a floor pump. Also make sure the valve stem you are using is tight so the there's no leak there either. __________________ *TKBlazer:* Pho'dUp forgot his clothes i guess i have to stop by the thrift store and pick him up a dress to wear for the race

03-30-2008, 06:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
JOx2 Good Grasshopper	a spray bottle filled with soapy water is fine, no need to do it in the shower. __________________ Climbing, You Know You Want To.

03-29-2008, 01:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
thephat STR Veteran	Stanz conversions always have the potential for adventure. Some rim and tire combos are worse than others. There is always somone who has "never had a problem"(with such and such combo). Then there is always somone who did have a problem. Just because you have never had a problem does not mean that you never will. I like stanz, but I have been yelled at more than once by angry customers after I sold them Stanz.

03-31-2008, 08:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
bikeadict bikeaholic	I've managed to seat a weirwolf LT in the arch with a floor pump and yellow tape However, trying to mount my rampage to a Velocity Dyad has given me some problems. I ended up going with the 29er rim strip over top of a regular rim strip. I siliconed the valve in. I have to use a CO2 cartridge to get it to seat, but after that I can pump it up with a floor pump to keep pressure and work the stans magic to get it to seal. I have to say though that the shot of gas to get it to seat is imperative. Either through an air compressor or whatever.

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