SRAM or Shimano Drivetrain?

[ChariotsOfTires]

Is it best to run all one or the other? or can the two be mismatched (I.E. SRAM shifters with Shimano derailers and cassette)?
I talked to a guy at the LBS by my work and he says that Sram shifters won't work with Shimano derailers. If this is true does that also apply to cassettes. Can a SRAM cassette be user on a Shimano Shifter and Derailer set?

Discuss.....

[Chewyeti]

sram uses a 1:1 ratio on rd's, shitmano doesnt

fd's... doesnt matter.

I use shimano cassette with all X9 components....

[Kaboom]

Originally Posted by ChariotsOfTires

Is it best to run all one or the other? or can the two be mismatched (I.E. SRAM shifters with Shimano derailers and cassette)?
I talked to a guy at the LBS by my work and he says that Sram shifters won't work with Shimano derailers. If this is true does that also apply to cassettes. Can a SRAM cassette be user on a Shimano Shifter and Derailer set?

Discuss.....

Other than the cassette, I believe it all has to be the same. That said, the Shimano cassettes are a bit more expensive. I switched to SRAM about 3 years ago, and I love it. Precise, low maintenance.

Front Der. doesn't matter...forgot that part-Sorry

[foofighter]

read this...i posted it a while back and got a lot of response

SRAM vs Shimano Drivetrain

[tkblazer]

i'm running an XT front derailleur with Sram shifters

[Pato]

Actually, you can use SRAM shifters with Shimano rear derailleurs. You just have to use the correct ones like the SRAM Attack/Centera/MRX/TRX. The models with the X.0/X.9/X.7/X.5 designations are SRAM rear derailleurs only. All other parts are compatible. You can mix and match cassettes/chains/font derailleurs as you please.

The Shimano 2:1 vs SRAM 1:1 ratio is WAY over exaggerated. It's all a play on numbers. The true ratio is (I believe) Shimano 1.7:1 and SRAM 1.4:1. What SRAM marketing dept does is round to the nearest whole number. This makes the difference appear to be much bigger than it really is.

Duc

[ChariotsOfTires]

Originally Posted by foofighter

read this...i posted it a while back and got a lot of response

SRAM vs Shimano Drivetrain

Thanks Foo, reading through it as I type. (A difficult task I assure you, but something to strive for).

[CeeDubb]

I like how the SRAM shifts, but I can't handle all thumbs shifting.

I'd be hard pressed to switch from a Shimano Dual Control shift setup. I don't have to go through a bunch of thumb/finger contortions just to shift gears. But Dual-Controls aren't everyone's cup of tea.

XTR Dual Controls + XTR Low-Normal Rear Derailleur = Shifting Heaven

[ChariotsOfTires]

Originally Posted by foofighter

read this...i posted it a while back and got a lot of response

SRAM vs Shimano Drivetrain

So the upshot of this forum, besides the Shimano bashing, is...
1. Whatever shifters you have, you need to have a matching rear derailer (i.e. shimano to shimano and SRAM to SRAM). - Wish I would have known this before I bought those SRAM shifters off of Brewmaster, not his fault for my ignorance.
2. The front derailer, cassette and chain can be either Shimano or SRAM regarless of your RD and Shifters.

Is this an accurate assessment?

[CeeDubb]

Originally Posted by ChariotsOfTires

So the upshot of this forum, besides the Shimano bashing, is...
1. Whatever shifters you have, you need to have a matching rear derailer (i.e. shimano to shimano and SRAM to SRAM). - Wish I would have known this before I bought those SRAM shifters off of Brewmaster, not his fault for my ignorance.
2. The front derailer, cassette and chain can be either Shimano or SRAM regarless of your RD and Shifters.

Is this an accurate assessment?

Yup! Exact-a-mundo.

I gather you currently have Shimano front and rear derailleurs?

Here's a SRAM X9 rear derailleur for $59.99: http://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/ite.../?s=1206527511

[ChariotsOfTires]

Originally Posted by CeeDubb

Yup! Exact-a-mundo.

I gather you currently have Shimano front and rear derailleurs?

Here's a SRAM X9 rear derailleur for $59.99: http://shop.vendio.com/benscycle/ite.../?s=1206527511

True, I am running Shimano. I have a Shimano Alivio M-410 on right now. Is it an ridiculous question to ask if the x9 is better? I figure it is. The question then is how much of a difference in performance am I going to see with the x9 versus the Alivo?

Foo chime in. The previous post said you bought the X9.

(Dang it!!! I go in asking a simple question about compatibility and end up looking at a whole new drive train.)

[foofighter]

i didnt end up buying anything becuase other projects got in the way hehe, what experience i do have w/ the SRAM shifting is pretty positive because it just shifts so nicely the pushing the triggers was somethign to get used to but i dont think it would be too difficult

[CeeDubb]

Originally Posted by ChariotsOfTires

True, I am running Shimano. I have a Shimano Alivio M-410 on right now. Is it an ridiculous question to ask if the x9 is better? I figure it is. The question then is how much of a difference in performance am I going to see with the x9 versus the Alivo?

Foo chime in. The previous post said you bought the X9.

(Dang it!!! I go in asking a simple question about compatibility and end up looking at a whole new drive train.)

The X9 will operate MUCH better, you'll have a lighter, better operating component. Coupled with your SRAM shifters, you notice how much better shifting will be.

I also found an X5 RD for $36, but the for the extra $23 I'd go for the X9.

Here's the X5: http://elitecycling.biz/page.cfm?Pag...ils&sku=RD5956
These were just quick searches, so you may be able to find better deals on eBay or here on the STR Marketplace.

I'd urge you to support STR sponsors or your LBS, but if you can a better deal elsewhere, have at it!!

[foofighter]

you saw the link i posted in that thread from price point htey had 2 x-9 triggers and x-9 rd for a ridiculous price $140?

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/128...COMBO-2007.htm

[DBD]

You can run SRAM Attack or Rocket shifters and they work with Shimano rear dérailleurs.

If you run a SRAM dérailleur out back I believe you must use SRAM shifters unless it is an older SRAM that had the 2:1 indexing, I do not recal which model it was.

[TooManyTacos]

Yeah I'm sure we've all been there where we get sucked into buying way more than we'd originally intended. However, I can say with some certainty that the switch to X9 will be well worth it. It costs more money up front, but once it's done, you won't have to worry about it again for a long time. Plus there's lots of good deals on that stuff right now.

[ChariotsOfTires]

Originally Posted by Chewyeti

sram uses a 1:1 ratio on rd's, shitmano doesnt

fd's... doesnt matter.

I use shimano cassette with all X9 components....

Aaron, how is that x9 setup working for you? Any issues with skipped shifting or ghost shifting?

[Chewyeti]

shifting heaven compared to the deore shit i had LOL

all my bikes are either X9 or x7

[ChariotsOfTires]

Originally Posted by Chewyeti

shifting heaven compared to the deore shit i had LOL

all my bikes are either X9 or x7

Sweet, I think I am going to do one of the two listed above (CeeDub's or Foo's listings). Those x9's on Priceline look mighty fine and at a killer deal.
Did you install any of them yourself or take it to your LBS.

RD <//><

[el_d00der1n0]

Originally Posted by ChariotsOfTires

Sweet, I think I am going to do one of the two listed above (CeeDub's or Foo's listings). Those x9's on Priceline look mighty fine and at a killer deal.
Did you install any of them yourself or take it to your LBS.

RD <//><