Shimano/Fox 15mm hub details

[biglimey]

There's been a bit of talk around about the new Fox/Shimano 15mm standard. Looks to be a pretty solid alternative to 20mm for the long travel XC types. Take a look at this from Bikemagic in the UK

http://www.bikemagic.com/news/articl...ttr=editorial2

[andy aka rut]

Very nice. I got to see the fork first hand. I really like the idea. If you are an xc rider and haven't ridden on a 20mm though-axle, it really stiffens up the front end. I mean amazingly! I can't wait to see it for a Niner as well!!!

[biglimey]

I think you're going to see a LOT of new 20mm forks in the 100-140mm range next year (and 29'er versions), but the 15mm seems to be slated (at least with FOX) for just 26"

[jamesdc]

Why do companies have to come up with more useless options, just stick to 9mm or 20mm, dont make it more difficult

[biglimey]

Originally Posted by jamesdc

Why do companies have to come up with more useless options, just stick to 9mm or 20mm, dont make it more difficult

or 24mm (maverick) or 25mm (Special - ed) or lefty, or my new design the righty

[2wheel_lee]

It's great that a new lightweight standard will be available for disc brakes. As we all know, the slotted dropout was conceived long before disc brakes, and other than burly 20 mm axles, nothing has been done to counteract the braking forces caused by disc brakes.

[allison]

Originally Posted by biglimey

I think you're going to see a LOT of new 20mm forks in the 100-140mm range next year (and 29'er versions), but the 15mm seems to be slated (at least with FOX) for just 26"

Justin and I were both kinda talking about that. He's been waiting months for the WB's 150 to come out. They are taking their sweet time.. which is odd because they have a niche in the market no one else can provide forks for, yet they aren't really doing a whole lot to bolster future sales (by leaving customers hanging).

Needless to say, the next big 5" 29er fork to come out, he may wind up trying that eventually instead.

I think as more frames come out, especially using 4" forks as the norm, more manufacturers might want to come out with something, even if it's just 4-5". Adjustable might be nice also

[biglimey]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

It's great that a new lightweight standard will be available for disc brakes. As we all know, the slotted dropout was conceived long before disc brakes, and other than burly 20 mm axles, nothing has been done to counteract the braking forces caused by disc brakes.

Fox tried by moving the dropouts foreward, but nothing like watching the f/wheel dive to one side on a QR wheel with powerfull disks.!!

Originally Posted by allison

I think as more frames come out, especially using 4" forks as the norm, more manufacturers might want to come out with something, even if it's just 4-5". Adjustable might be nice also

Even my 100mm Reba feels sketchy, it's been a long time since i've ridden a standard QR front in the dirt and it took a little getting used too (Mr Pikey is insanely stiff by comparison)

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by biglimey

Fox tried by moving the dropouts foreward, but nothing like watching the f/wheel dive to one side on a QR wheel with powerfull disks.!!

Yeah, I've had that happen a couple times. It even happened with good quality skewers cranked until I had deep imprints in my palm. After that happened a couple times, I really became a believer in thru-axle forks, and rotors larger than 160 mm should not be used on QR forks (I was even running a 160 mm rotor!)

[Alex]

Originally Posted by jamesdc

Why do companies have to come up with more useless options, just stick to 9mm or 20mm, dont make it more difficult

If there's a market, they'll sell for it; Which is good, really: Consumers can filter to what is best suited for the purpose, and the companies will follow that lead.

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by Alex

If there's a market, they'll sell for it; Which is good, really: Consumers can filter to what is best suited for the purpose, and the companies will follow that lead.

And that's how we ended up with VHS instead of Beta. Oh...bad example.

[Bryguy17]

personally, if i could get 20mm lowers for my fox 32 talas, i would be all over it. unfortunately, you can't and wont be able to in the future unless fox decides that 15mm is too little. Of course, if the 15mm thing does catch on, i might consider upgrading the lowers to that.

I think I'm going to get a TA on all my future bikes. I rode a bike with one just around a parking lot and it was a crazy difference.

[biglimey]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

And that's how we ended up with VHS instead of Beta. Oh...bad example.

mmmm betamax....

[tkblazer]

looks like MARZ is going to release one as well

[2wheel_lee]

If you want more history of what lead to this new design, explore this website: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames...quick_release/

[vukyle]

Interesting concept, of course don't expect to see any of these of cross country racing bikes anytime soon. Most likely on trail bikes.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by vukyle

Interesting concept, of course don't expect to see any of these of cross country racing bikes anytime soon. Most likely on trail bikes.

Why not? It should be just as light and just as quick to take off the wheel. The added stiffness benefit should be favorable for racing too, I would think...