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Old 02-20-2008, 09:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I have thought about drilling out my Chris King front hub end caps and putting one on the RIP Reba bike. Decided to wait, maybe CK or someone will make some new end caps.

Then it occured to me that putting a DT on the Reba would be like putting and ankle brace on a ankle without a knee brace on the knee. So still waiting for that 100 to 140mm Pike, maybe 2009.

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Old 02-21-2008, 11:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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So when you are getting your anodized green version?

To get this little diss fest back on track. I'd be interested in one of these for my Reba/WTB Laser Disc set up.
dont think the WTB lasers will work in this regard....i could be wrong but i doubt they are convertible to 9mm front/10mm rear
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:29 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Which hubs do the Through Bolts work on? They work on all DT hubs? The website doesnt explain much.

http://www.dtswiss.com/Products/Comp...thru-bolt.aspx
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Hope (with help from a drill)
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:33 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:40 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Shimano hubs wont fit, despite all my pleading with their chief engineer. For me there is a noticeable reduction in flex while breaking or wheelie dropping. I blew out the guts of three inferior hubs last year and have not had a problem since switching to a chumba wheel set. The only choices out there are from Kore, Hadley, DT swiss (weak internals), and Specialized made the Stout series hubs for a while. For a rider of my XL size and style regular QR's are much too fragile and downright scary, I would go so far as to say they only belong on road bikes. By having a properly designed QR thru axle there can be less weight, greater strength and fewer parts to fail. Much like the Maxle I think it to be the next great advance in the industry.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:45 AM   #27 (permalink)
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DISCO - Shimano is making their own standard (15mm)

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Old 02-21-2008, 11:50 AM   #28 (permalink)
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From the DT Swiss page on the RWS Thru Bolt:
The thru bolt RWS optimizes the RWS system even more. Instead of a regular 5 mm quick release axle, a 9 mm front and 10 mm rear thru bolt is used. Together with a DT Swiss thru bolt hub it offers an even better connection to the frame and fork than even a standard RWS as well as any other quick release. The RWS thru bolt system combines the advantages of a fixed thru axle with the ease of use of a standard quick release. The RWS thru bolt system is 100 % compatible with any standard frame or fork that would normally use a quick release!

That last statement seems to be a bit misleading or at the least confusing. 100% compatible with any standard from or fork that would normally use a quick release! Hope, King, WI, Hadley hubs will work with any standard frame or fork that would normally use a quick release as will WTB, Shimano XT, etc. But apparently these hubs will not work. Not really surprising but the limiting factor here is the hub. This bit of information is not stated clearly nor is there a list of compatible hubs on the DT Swiss site. If one is not paying attention (like me) they would be lead to believe 100% of hubs will work too.

I assume the RWS MTB skewer will work with a WTB hub? Any real advantage of of using this over any other skewer in terms of performance? I guess the ratcheting system may be easier and/or quicker to tighten/loosen, which is an advantage to me.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:55 AM   #29 (permalink)
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From the DT Swiss page on the RWS Thru Bolt:
The thru bolt RWS optimizes the RWS system even more. Instead of a regular 5 mm quick release axle, a 9 mm front and 10 mm rear thru bolt is used. Together with a DT Swiss thru bolt hub it offers an even better connection to the frame and fork than even a standard RWS as well as any other quick release. The RWS thru bolt system combines the advantages of a fixed thru axle with the ease of use of a standard quick release. The RWS thru bolt system is 100 % compatible with any standard frame or fork that would normally use a quick release!

That last statement seems to be a bit misleading or at the least confusing. 100% compatible with any standard from or fork that would normally use a quick release! Hope, King, WI, Hadley hubs will work with any standard frame or fork that would normally use a quick release as will WTB, Shimano XT, etc. But apparently these hubs will not work. Not really surprising but the limiting factor here is the hub. This bit of information is not stated clearly nor is there a list of compatible hubs on the DT Swiss site. If one is not paying attention (like me) they would be lead to believe 100% of hubs will work too.

I assume the RWS MTB skewer will work with a WTB hub? Any real advantage of of using this over any other skewer in terms of performance? I guess the ratcheting system may be easier and/or quicker to tighten/loosen, which is an advantage to me.

you should look at your hubs. Most (not all) front hubs have end caps on them for QR's. If you drill out the caps you can use a 9mm through bolt. You should not have to drill out the axle
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:56 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I was confused also. I don't get how a regular QR hub can used with a 9 or 10mm thru bolt.

I wana get the thru bolt for my F100 with DT hubs. Does the Thru bolt work on all DT hubs??
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:58 AM   #31 (permalink)
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[quote=Burner;213048]DISCO - Shimano is making their own standard (15mm)


First biopace, then octalink, next came centerlock, followed by Dual control. I swear they are the microsuck of the bike world with all the proprietary garbage they foist on us. What frame maker is going to play ball with such a wacky axle size? This is exactly why customers continue to jump off their ship.
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:01 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I was confused also. I don't get how a regular QR hub can used with a 9 or 10mm thru bolt.

I wana get the thru bolt for my F100 with DT hubs. Does the Thru bolt work on all DT hubs??
I would not say all. DT also has 20mm hubs (same as Hadley and others)

Hope however you can use QR 9mm and 20mm with the same hub!

My guess is that if you have a QR DT there are 9mm end caps you can purchase. Call The Path (I think that is what Tani said)
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Old 02-21-2008, 12:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Anyone know if they're compatible with the "skraxle" hubs that came on Specialized bikes a few years ago.... Specialized branded and made by DT/Hugi.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Anyone know if they're compatible with the "skraxle" hubs that came on Specialized bikes a few years ago.... Specialized branded and made by DT/Hugi.
pull your wheel off and take a look. If you can remove the end caps you should be good.

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I have thought about drilling out my Chris King front hub end caps and putting one on the RIP Reba bike. Decided to wait, maybe CK or someone will make some new end caps.

Then it occured to me that putting a DT on the Reba would be like putting and ankle brace on a ankle without a knee brace on the knee. So still waiting for that 100 to 140mm Pike, maybe 2009.

Dean
RS has a prototype adjustable travel 20mm Reba on the way (seen pics).

However it won't be as stiff as Fo Shizzle's Fox with QR.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:59 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Anyone know if they're compatible with the "skraxle" hubs that came on Specialized bikes a few years ago.... Specialized branded and made by DT/Hugi.
They should. The skraxles were 9mm as well.
The hubs were light, but the skewer was heavy and kept coming loose. I had to position it so the fork leg would keep it from backing out. I don't know about spending $50+ for a skewer for an old wheel that is worth just as much.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:59 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Just got an email from WTB. The RWS will work with the Laser Disc.
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:01 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Just got an email from WTB. The RWS will work with the Laser Disc.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:04 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I switched from Hope rear skewer to DT Swiss RWS system 10mm (Hadley hubs) there was a very noticeable increase in lateral stiffness, decrease in axle flex, improvement in handling.
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