It's official........Sliders are better

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by dstepper

Depends on the design. They can be a problem adjusting or taking the wheel off with disk brakes.

Dean

That's probably a result of poor frame design. I've been using slotted dropouts with disc brakes on my Surly 1x1, Azonic Evolution, and Black Market Riot. I've never had any fuss with the caliper when removing or adjusting the rear wheel. And even when I change gears on the 1x1, the movement is negligible relative to caliper position, so I've never moved the caliper. Apparently, I've been bless with frames of good design, relating to the rear wheel and disc brake caliper interface.

[Marshall Willanholly]

Originally Posted by dstepper

Not disagreeing with you, I have EBB problems. I just don’t like the looks of sliders….love the clean look of the EBB. If I ever replace my One-9 it will be a ti frame split shell bike.

Dean

Not all sliders are created equal. I think these are very clean looking and don't disrupt the lines of the rear stays.

[Devoid169]

I agree with Marshall - the Black Cats are gorgeous and functional....but also pricey I imagine. SS manufacturers TAKE NOTE!!

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

I was removing and reinstalling wheels on my Sting-Ray as early as 7 or 8 (I repainted it when I was about 9 or 10), and I didn't have a problem - and I had to work with a coaster brake arm. How are slotted dropouts a challenge?

Disk brakes is the issue

Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly

Not all sliders are created equal. I think these are very clean looking and don't disrupt the lines of the rear stays.

The first time I saw those

Very nice looking

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

Disk brakes is the issue

See my post above about disc brakes.

Damn it, Marshall! Almost every time you or Carla post pictures of your bikes, I make an embarassing mess. And I'm at work, damn it! Be right back.

[Rivet]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

On my 5th SS frame and finally have one that does not require constant chain adjustment.

Some riders do not have problems with EBB’s but I am a heavier rider and mash. After every ride (over 15 miles) I would have to adjust the chain.

This slider design has set screws that keep the sliders from moving. Once I got it dialed in the chain tension has remained the same.


That’s my story and I am sticking to it

These are the coolest dropouts I've seen so far.


Paragons are ugly in my opinion

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

See my post above about disc brakes.

Damn it, Marshall! Almost every time you or Carla post pictures of your bikes, I make an embarassing mess. And I'm at work, damn it! Be right back.

The Surly KM is one of the frames that have a rep with disk brake issues.



ps. That Black Cat is yummy

Originally Posted by Rivet

These are the coolest dropouts I've seen so far.


Paragons are ugly in my opinion

so are tooth brushes but they work

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

The Surly KM is one of the frames that have a rep with disk brake issues.

I guess Surly doesn't always do it right. Or maybe it's how you have the caliper adjusted on the frame - there is a wide range of adjustment, and as a result, you may have your caliper in a location that makes it difficult. Also, could it be a caliper design issue? What brakes are you using? I'm using Hayes Mags.

[HUGH]

Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly

Not all sliders are created equal. I think these are very clean looking and don't disrupt the lines of the rear stays.

I NEED a link to the maker of this frame!!!
MOTHER Fer... FRICK I am sooooo pissed right now!! Now I have to explain to Veronica why I NEED another bicycle......

HUGH

[Abui]

Originally Posted by Rivet

These are the coolest dropouts I've seen so far.


Paragons are ugly in my opinion

If you saw off the derailleur hanger.

[Marshall Willanholly]

Originally Posted by HUGH

I NEED a link to the maker of this frame!!!
MOTHER Fer... FRICK I am sooooo pissed right now!! Now I have to explain to Veronica why I NEED another bicycle......

HUGH

He just has a blog at the moment:

http://www.blackcatbicycles.com

Originally Posted by Devoid169

I agree with Marshall - the Black Cats are gorgeous and functional....but also pricey I imagine. SS manufacturers TAKE NOTE!!

Not as much as you might think. Certainly less than Willits, Sycip, Soulcraft, and some others I looked at.

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly

He just has a blog at the moment:

http://www.blackcatbicycles.com




Not as much as you might think. Certainly less than Willits, Sycip, Soulcraft, and some others I looked at.

I will bite......what is the price range?

[HUGH]

Originally Posted by DeeZee

I will bite......what is the price range?

If you have to ask......

[DeeZee]

Originally Posted by HUGH

If you have to ask......

I know

[Pho'dUp]

I think On-One has got a good slot design with it's brake mounts rotated. Easy to get the wheel on or off, but you would still need to re-adjust the brake caliper if you change gears/chain length.

[mtnbikerfred]

Originally Posted by Pho'dUp

I think On-One has got a good slot design with it's brake mounts rotated. Easy to get the wheel on or off, but you would still need to re-adjust the brake caliper if you change gears/chain length.

Yeah, and just how often are you going to change the gearing on your SS?

The Roger has a great design too.

[Abui]

Originally Posted by Pho'dUp

I think On-One has got a good slot design with it's brake mounts rotated. Easy to get the wheel on or off, but you would still need to re-adjust the brake caliper if you change gears/chain length.

Hmmm, how do you move the wheel forward to loosen the chain? (Loosen the brakes?)

[fortytwo]

OK. Well now that it's official, I have ordered a Dean Colonel X-Lite with sliders.

[KonaDupee]

Love the sliding rear drop outs on my Kona Unit 2-9er. In the 4 months that I've had it, they've needed adjusting once. That took all of 2 minutes. That bike has been maintenance free!!!!