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Dino Brown · 12-25-2007, 04:29 PM

For the second time in 4 months, I have sliced the sidewall of my tire. The direction of the slice is horizontal. About 1/4" in length. Razor thin cut.

I am kinda' bummed. I threw away a perfectly good tire a few months ago (FEAR of tire failure). My current tire has only a few rides on it. I don't want to throw away another perfectly good tire. I also don't want to endanger myself.

Should I patch the tire or throw it away?

Seat Sniffer · 12-25-2007, 04:35 PM

I just patch mine on the inside with a piece of old tube and rubber cement the heck out of it/ Or an iron on rubberized denim patch will work too. Maybe it matter if its tubeless?

CPATCRASH · 12-25-2007, 04:37 PM

Trash it! It's not worth it especially on the sidewall. It wouldn't be a slow leak.

dstepper · 12-25-2007, 04:48 PM

I ran a 2.5 Blue Groove with a inch slice in it for about a year. I used a tire patch on the inside, never had a problem or worried about it.

Pato · 12-25-2007, 04:52 PM

Hey Dino,

What tire are you running? Maybe the sidewalls are too thin. Perhaps try a different tire? That being said.

You can clean out the cut, apply some Crazy Glue then either patch it with a tire boot (like this http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412) or use a tire patch (like this http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412). It should be fine. I would go with the tire patch though. They are more malleable and would take the repeated deformation better. You can also use a regular tube patch I suppose. I've never tried those before. I've had good luck with the tire patches in the past. Although, I can't remember if I've ever used them on a sidewall though.

Duc

mechmann · 12-25-2007, 04:58 PM

throw a tire boot on the inside of the tire and it would be fine.

now that IH, that is hopeless. you should trash it and get something better. that bike is holding you back man!!!

Dino Brown · 12-25-2007, 05:17 PM

Thanks for the input!

The tires in question are Panaracer CINDER's.
While not the lightest tire in the world- I really like the way they handle! Both sidewalls were sliced on the finest (Yucca?) needles that the San Gabriel's had to offer! They also dug into my leg.
I have a (2) new tires (one of which is a Cinder) in the garage. I will probably patch the tire and wear it down riding The Loop. For rides that I need peace of mind, I will slap on the new tread.

Thanks for looking out for me Mechmann!

I will get rid of the Horse as soon as I find something better!

mechmann · 12-25-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dino Brown

Thanks for looking out for me Mechmann!

I will get rid of the Horse as soon as I find something better!

ummm... have you built the damn Uzzi yet???????

mottmcfly · 12-25-2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dino Brown

Thanks for the input!

The tires in question are Panaracer CINDER's.
While not the lightest tire in the world- I really like the way they handle! Both sidewalls were sliced on the finest (Yucca?) needles that the San Gabriel's had to offer! They also dug into my leg.
I have a (2) new tires (one of which is a Cinder) in the garage. I will probably patch the tire and wear it down riding The Loop. For rides that I need peace of mind, I will slap on the new tread.

Thanks for looking out for me Mechmann!

I will get rid of the Horse as soon as I find something better!

I'm wondering if trying something with a Kevlar sidewall might help. Then again, with the riding we've been doing lately (mad props to the Yucca daggers) I'm not sure two rips in 4 months is that out of the ordinary. 2.35 might be a better choice for the Gabs downhill.

bighit8 · 12-25-2007, 06:03 PM

I think it would be safe to patch it up, being that tires on bikes don't just blow like car tires and the worst that would happen is just a flat tire.I pretty much use DH tires ( heavy) but I get few flats.

2wheel_lee · 12-25-2007, 06:06 PM

I assume that it's not a UST tire. But if it's only 1/4" cut, I'd simply put a regular tire patch on it and run it with a tube.

Rockinthecasbah · 12-25-2007, 09:21 PM

DINO you have to go over those rocks not arround them problem solved. PS those are yuccas in th gabes. Otherwise i wouldnt patch a sidewall and trust it on that type of tire, fully would be cool.

thephat · 12-26-2007, 06:42 AM

Boot it up, or just duct tape it. It should be fine.

Are you sure this is not retaliation from Hugh or one of your other mortal enemies?

Cableguy · 12-26-2007, 06:51 AM

Assuming you are not riding tubeless, you can also try Gorilla Glue (on the outside) on the cut. That stuff is super strong.

Dino Brown · 12-26-2007, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thephat

Boot it up, or just duct tape it. It should be fine.
Are you sure this is not retaliation from Hugh or one of your other mortal enemies?

Did you say HUGH?

It must be him!

Ricky, we need to hit the Gab's someday. You would love it. A lot of those rocks you "can't" go around. Lots of square edge hits to the rim and tire! Thought pinch flats were the cause of a few flats. Nope- Yucca!

For those who ride the Gab's bring a few tubes... You may need them!

DeeZee · 12-26-2007, 07:06 AM

When riding in Utah with some locals (Goose and other places) we noticed they all had patches on the side walls of their tires. Those rocks can really tear things up.

They used really good tube patches inside and outside and said they never have a problem.

Schecky · 12-26-2007, 11:29 AM

I think its the fault of your bike.
It heard about you fondling/siting on other bikes and now it wants revenge.

Hell hath no fury like a bike scorned...

tkblazer · 12-26-2007, 11:41 AM

andy has been riding his nevegal that has a torned sidewall... i believe his fix was a small section of an old tube and superglue!

DDB@OCR · 12-26-2007, 12:04 PM

I've used canvas/tent repair kits (from surplus stores etc) and sewn the sidewall back up all neat and nice like, then gooped or patched the inside and viola!
I used a rolling stich on each end first to stop the split and then a criss-cross in the center to get it all closed up.

I've even enterainted the idea of having a boot repair shop sew 'em for me but...passed as I'da felt like a dork walking in with a bike tire.

Worked for me on my Kenda Quick 1.7's and Pana 1.8's.

northshore · 12-26-2007, 01:29 PM

If the tires were installed on an I.H. flats will never happen. They instantly become bullet proof.

Maybe run Kevlar like another person mentioned on this thread and possibly thorn resistant tubing if you can bear the weight consequence?

12-25-2007, 04:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dino Brown Sir Smack-Alot	Tire problem For the second time in 4 months, I have sliced the sidewall of my tire. The direction of the slice is horizontal. About 1/4" in length. Razor thin cut. I am kinda' bummed. I threw away a perfectly good tire a few months ago (FEAR of tire failure). My current tire has only a few rides on it. I don't want to throw away another perfectly good tire. I also don't want to endanger myself. Should I patch the tire or throw it away? __________________ L.A. KINGS ... dw-link.com/reasons SheDevil- I was on George's crotch for hours Integradriv3r- How many kids do you have that you DON'T know about? Genusmtbkr5- I like to go BOTH ways

12-25-2007, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
CPATCRASH Geddyup!	Trash it! It's not worth it especially on the sidewall. It wouldn't be a slow leak. __________________ Cowboy. http://www.thepathbikeshop.com/ Daily thought: some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs!

12-25-2007, 04:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
dstepper Over the Hill	I ran a 2.5 Blue Groove with a inch slice in it for about a year. I used a tire patch on the inside, never had a problem or worried about it. __________________ If I'm not lost or getting bushwacked, the trail was too easy. Prescott Valley Houses The Path

12-25-2007, 05:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dino Brown Sir Smack-Alot	Thanks for the input! The tires in question are Panaracer CINDER's. While not the lightest tire in the world- I really like the way they handle! Both sidewalls were sliced on the finest (Yucca?) needles that the San Gabriel's had to offer! They also dug into my leg. I have a (2) new tires (one of which is a Cinder) in the garage. I will probably patch the tire and wear it down riding The Loop. For rides that I need peace of mind, I will slap on the new tread. Thanks for looking out for me Mechmann! I will get rid of the Horse as soon as I find something better! __________________ L.A. KINGS ... dw-link.com/reasons SheDevil- I was on George's crotch for hours Integradriv3r- How many kids do you have that you DON'T know about? Genusmtbkr5- I like to go BOTH ways

12-25-2007, 06:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
bighit8 STR Veteran	I think it would be safe to patch it up, being that tires on bikes don't just blow like car tires and the worst that would happen is just a flat tire.I pretty much use DH tires ( heavy) but I get few flats. __________________ DINO BROWN:I am a BIG fan of the G-Spot! You can quote me on that! JASONMASON: Dude you didn't get lost...Thats where the trail ends!!!!

12-25-2007, 04:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Seat Sniffer STR Veteran	I just patch mine on the inside with a piece of old tube and rubber cement the heck out of it/ Or an iron on rubberized denim patch will work too. Maybe it matter if its tubeless?

12-25-2007, 04:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pato Stop stealing my thunder!	Hey Dino, What tire are you running? Maybe the sidewalls are too thin. Perhaps try a different tire? That being said. You can clean out the cut, apply some Crazy Glue then either patch it with a tire boot (like this http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412) or use a tire patch (like this http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=5412). It should be fine. I would go with the tire patch though. They are more malleable and would take the repeated deformation better. You can also use a regular tube patch I suppose. I've never tried those before. I've had good luck with the tire patches in the past. Although, I can't remember if I've ever used them on a sidewall though. Duc

12-25-2007, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
mechmann STR Veteran	throw a tire boot on the inside of the tire and it would be fine. now that IH, that is hopeless. you should trash it and get something better. that bike is holding you back man!!!

12-25-2007, 06:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
2wheel_lee	I assume that it's not a UST tire. But if it's only 1/4" cut, I'd simply put a regular tire patch on it and run it with a tube. __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you. May the air be filled with tires!

12-25-2007, 09:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
Rockinthecasbah A.D.D. unleashed	DINO you have to go over those rocks not arround them problem solved. PS those are yuccas in th gabes. Otherwise i wouldnt patch a sidewall and trust it on that type of tire, fully would be cool. __________________ All Previous Races and Events 50% offf check it out !!!!!!!!!!! Get that pic you almost bought for half off !!!! http://www.RobbinsPictures.com

12-26-2007, 06:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
thephat STR Veteran	You can get away with it Boot it up, or just duct tape it. It should be fine. Are you sure this is not retaliation from Hugh or one of your other mortal enemies?

12-26-2007, 06:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
Cableguy Member	Assuming you are not riding tubeless, you can also try Gorilla Glue (on the outside) on the cut. That stuff is super strong.

12-26-2007, 07:06 AM	#16 (permalink)
DeeZee STR Veteran	... When riding in Utah with some locals (Goose and other places) we noticed they all had patches on the side walls of their tires. Those rocks can really tear things up. They used really good tube patches inside and outside and said they never have a problem.

12-26-2007, 11:29 AM	#17 (permalink)
Schecky SoCalMTBubbs	I think its the fault of your bike. It heard about you fondling/siting on other bikes and now it wants revenge. Hell hath no fury like a bike scorned... __________________ tkblazer: it was Steven Jackson that led me to STR... http://www.ventanausa.com/

12-26-2007, 11:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
tkblazer Noog'alish	andy has been riding his nevegal that has a torned sidewall... i believe his fix was a small section of an old tube and superglue! __________________ Denmother: I had the sausage sampler, it was yummy! Guero: i'm easy

12-26-2007, 12:04 PM	#19 (permalink)
DDB@OCR has-been onna hardtail	Here's a tip..... I've used canvas/tent repair kits (from surplus stores etc) and sewn the sidewall back up all neat and nice like, then gooped or patched the inside and viola! I used a rolling stich on each end first to stop the split and then a criss-cross in the center to get it all closed up. I've even enterainted the idea of having a boot repair shop sew 'em for me but...passed as I'da felt like a dork walking in with a bike tire. Worked for me on my Kenda Quick 1.7's and Pana 1.8's. __________________ Viva the Hill. - http://mtbpv.org/ H.L.M.B.A (founding member)

12-26-2007, 01:29 PM	#20 (permalink)
northshore Aloha Brah!	If the tires were installed on an I.H. flats will never happen. They instantly become bullet proof. Maybe run Kevlar like another person mentioned on this thread and possibly thorn resistant tubing if you can bear the weight consequence? __________________ Hawaiian Island Creations Ride it: dw-link.com/reasons

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