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Old 11-14-2007, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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one of the very last steps in finishing my new build is figuring out how I want to run full housing on the derailleur cables

last night I zip tied everything down and cut things accordingly and now i'm stuck between busting out a dremel to do this


http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=130062





or to buy 7 of these for about $50


neither of which seem ideal, but I'm leaning more towards drilling out the frame as that'll look better, but my only dremel experience comes from last night and cutting the cable housing with a cutting wheel.

drilling out the 7 cable stops doesn't seem *that* hard, but I tend to not take things slowly sometimes when working.

what to do? what to do?
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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one of the very last steps in finishing my new build is figuring out how I want to run full housing on the derailleur cables

last night I zip tied everything down and cut things accordingly and now i'm stuck between busting out a dremel to do this


http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=130062





or to buy 7 of these for about $50


neither of which seem ideal, but I'm leaning more towards drilling out the frame as that'll look better, but my only dremel experience comes from last night and cutting the cable housing with a cutting wheel.

drilling out the 7 cable stops doesn't seem *that* hard, but I tend to not take things slowly sometimes when working.

what to do? what to do?
if your frame is still under warranty and breakes

Also think about resale value
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you don't feel confident drilling out the stops, I'd bet a local shop would do it for you for a nominal fee.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't think there is any risk of the frame breaking. I've done it before on my old Foes FXR and it was easy. If your frame is brand new I'd probably stray away from doing it. Running full length housing is more appropriate if we lived where the trails were muddy all the time but here in so cal it really isn't worth the trouble.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I usually drill a hole through the side of the cable stop. This allows me to run a ziptie through it to hold down the cable or brake. This does nothing structural to the frame.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Use these. They simply stick-on to the frame. No drilling required.

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/CA401Z02-Jagwire+Stick+On+Cableline+Guide+3+Pack.aspx
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:06 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think there is any risk of the frame breaking. I've done it before on my old Foes FXR and it was easy. If your frame is brand new I'd probably stray away from doing it. Running full length housing is more appropriate if we lived where the trails were muddy all the time but here in so cal it really isn't worth the trouble.
it will break the frame but I doubt the manufact would warranty a frame that has been "modified".
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
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it will break the frame but I doubt the manufact would warranty a frame that has been "modified".
gotcha, misread what you said
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:41 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If you don't feel confident drilling out the stops, I'd bet a local shop would do it for you for a nominal fee.
never occured to me that shops do this. is this something they all do?

I will be in the tustin area tomorrow morning
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:55 AM   #10 (permalink)
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drilling out the 7 cable stops doesn't seem *that* hard, but I tend to not take things slowly sometimes when working.

what to do? what to do?
I drilled out the stops on my Giant Reign; I did not use a Dremel, though. I selected a regular metal drill bit and it went through the soft aluminum like a hot knife through butter. Each stop took me 5 minutes of prep (to ensure everything was lined up and taped off to prevent dings) and about 1 second of drilling (no heat). Be very careful laterally because the stops are very soft.

I would stay away from any drilling process that produces any heat, the way a Dremel might.

It is an easy job, though, and the stops are not a structural element on your bike --- no frame integrity issues.
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Old 11-14-2007, 11:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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so you went at it with a regular drill? I'm more comfortable with that but working on something so small with a large drill seems a little awkward.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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so you went at it with a regular drill? I'm more comfortable with that but working on something so small with a large drill seems a little awkward.
if you are close to the 57/91 bring it by. I have a small air powered drill that would get right in there.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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one of the very last steps in finishing my new build is figuring out how I want to run full housing on the derailleur cables

last night I zip tied everything down and cut things accordingly and now i'm stuck between busting out a dremel to do this


http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=130062





or to buy 7 of these for about $50


neither of which seem ideal, but I'm leaning more towards drilling out the frame as that'll look better, but my only dremel experience comes from last night and cutting the cable housing with a cutting wheel.

drilling out the 7 cable stops doesn't seem *that* hard, but I tend to not take things slowly sometimes when working.

what to do? what to do?
I have these on my bike and they work great, PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO NOT DRILL OUT YOUR CABLE STOPS!!! OR HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DO IT BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO DEEP OR STRAY OFF THE HOLE YOU COULD GO INTO FRAME
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
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i also picked me up a pair of those at Jensons...work great!
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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any pics? getting 7 at $8 each or so seems a little more expensive than i'd like
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i don't have any right now with me...but i can post some later
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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so you went at it with a regular drill?
sure --- no problems. It's so soft it's like grading cheese!
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I still say let a pro do it or use those straps from Jenson. No need to spend $50 to mount cables.
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I disagree about not needing it in California. Full cable housings actually lowered cable resistance for me. Definitely worth the hassle.

Also, have a "professional" do it? ROFL. The monkeys at most bike shops don't even know you can run full housing. I've had more than one tell me my der. won't work right. LOL. The only reason they are "professionals" is because they work on bikes for a living. Doesn't mean they are better than you or I.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I ended up drilling out the stops like pictured above. Easy as cake. Mine came out looking way better than that guys in the thread I linked. I was using the 4mm housing I got from the path which means the holes weren't as big as I'd initially thought. I used a dremel with the largest bit I had available and just made the hole. I later ended up using a drill and a bit that was just smaller than 4mm and went real slow. Frame wasn't under warranty so it was a no brainer
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