Day of Silence and More discussion

[Abui]

Here I am thinking the day of silence was a way to encourage observance of Memorial Day.

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by Seat Sniffer

I still use the doo-hickey that came with my birthday suit

me too but i always thought my was a doo-dad

[BFloFoxRider.]

Originally Posted by b5driver

George, while I appreciate what you're trying to accomplish here, I'm not sure what excluding those without the doohickey does to further that objective, although it does seem to act as a membership drive. Perhaps the goal is if people pay some money to support the site, then they will take some ownership and watch how they post? I'd appreciate a little explanation as to what your goals are in including some and excluding others. Some of the biggest offenders seem to be people that do have the doohickey (although I realize the majority of the offenders are probably noncontributors). Thanks. And yes, I realize I don't have the STR next to my name.

STR should have stock
I guess the doo hicke could be considered stock?

[TCB]

Originally Posted by Abui

Here I am thinking the day of silence was a way to encourage observance of Memorial Day.

That’s what I thought until I had time to read this thread.

[bajamtnbkr]

Whatever the reason for this Day of Silence, I didn't like it, there was nothing on t.v. last night, this site was down, so I had no choice but eMTyBeeR.

[Solo]

Originally Posted by Burner

I really didn't want to post to this thread but... damn.

Folks- you all need to relax and have a bit of perspective. This debate is going on as if the world was ending, we're talking about a 1-day gesture to get people to think, we'll all survive. We are talking about a mountain bike website. This is all something we are passionate about, but we're still just talking about riding bikes for recreation/fitness/competition/friends=FUN. We aren't debating the fundamentals of democracy.

George is only human, he's just trying to come up with a solution to a growing problem, that gets people thinking before spewing on the site... cut the guy some slack. This isn't his livelihood, he created this site out of his own passion for the sport, and it has developed into a great community much beyond all expectations. Now, with that comes a large burden of management. I wouldn't want to have to deal with it and some of the personalities on here. Frankly, I think he handles it with class.

So again, this is not a punishment, it's just something to provoke thought and consideration.... not that big of a deal. let's all chill out and get back to riding and talking bikes n' isht.


kudos gouge and thank you


PS- The whole doohickey/elitism sub-debate is especially retarded, I've never seen any evidence of that.... Except that I refuse to ride with any non-doohickey-holders, I am better than you all and I know it, plus you smell. If I speak kindly to you, or even acknowledge your existence, consider yourself graced.

Seriously, does anyone even notice who or who doesn't have a doohickey, and who the F cares?? I am an equal opportunity offender.

Thank you for the perspective. And thanks to George for including everyone in the "timeout", it was the fair and right thing to do.

I tried to log in late last night not knowing it had already started and was dissapointed in seeing the day of silence message. I would really miss this site if it weren't here tomorrow.

BTW Burner, don't bother joining any of my rides. They will only send you crawling home with your stinky little doohikey tucked firmly between your legs.

[drclark]

Originally Posted by bajamtnbkr

Whatever the reason for this Day of Silence, I didn't like it, there was nothing on t.v. last night, this site was down, so I had no choice but eMTyBeeR.

I don't know about anyone else, but I got sucked into watching the Memorial Day Movie Marathon on AMC last night. Watching those old war movies like "Von Ryan's Express", "The Longest Day", "The Sand Pebbles", "Sahara" kinda puts in perspective how hollywood has changed since then. Somehow they managed to make good movies without CGI, and overpowering digital surround sound. I didn't end up going to sleep til 3:00 am....

I didn't even notice the site was offline until late evening.

drc

[JoeTruth]

That was it? Ah man, that was nothing! I can take more then that. Hit me harder, George!

(Thank you for making it subtle.)

[station]

Upside: People shush for a few hours.

Down side: If you're trying to arrange to pick up a part you can't wait to get a hold of and you're waiting for a PM back so you can meet up in the morning you're F'd, even though you've never created drama and are a financial supporter of the site.

</rant>

[BrewMaster]

Originally Posted by JoeTruth

That was it? Ah man, that was nothing! I can take more then that. Hit me harder, George!

(Thank you for making it subtle.)

Joe, no one wants to see you parade around in your S&M suit. Keep your fetishes to yourself.

[JoeTruth]

Hey, what the hell? Where did you find that pic of me and my fire red-headed play mate, Sam? I better start paying more mind while in public places. Obviously, you couldn't see my face. The arss and boda bag must have given me away.

Originally Posted by BrewMaster

Joe, no one wants to see you parade around in your S&M suit. Keep your fetishes to yourself.

[2wheel_lee]

Despite what I said earlier, after having some time to give it perspective, I came to a conclusion: I'm now a little hesitant referring people to this site, because it may be "shut down" at any time by the whims of its owner. It was also a bummer that private messages and the calendar were also shut down. I have learned to not rely on these anymore.

[sladnas]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

Despite what I said earlier, after having some time to give it perspective, I came to a conclusion: I'm now a little hesitant referring people to this site, because it may be "shut down" at any time by the whims of its owner. It was also a bummer that private messages and the calendar were also shut down. I have learned to not rely on these anymore.

Good. You shouldn't be relying on them. George doesn't offer any sort of guaranteed uptime for anything. Put your favorite riding peeps in your cell phone.

I've avoided posting in here for so long, biting my lip, cause I tend to come off like an a$$hat when I'm all charged up. Oh well...

I'm going to begin by acknowledging that everyone is entitled to their opinion about this stuff. It's good that everyone communicate how they feel and we keep things open--even if it means digressing into temporary childhood. I feel like this place has become a huge therapy session.

2wheel, if you are going to stop recommending people here because of one stop-gap measure taken by the guy who pays all the bills, fine. If you think that one action overrides all the other positives this place has, then I'm sorry you never got a chance to fully integrate and enjoy the community. We will welcome you back with open arms whenever you change your mind.

To everyone else: pop a xanax , drink a sixer of your favorite brew , go for a ride, all of the above , or do whatever else you do to chill out. On the scale of the universe, we are all infinitesimally small undetectable blips on the number line. Take advantage of the time you have and enjoy it.

Finally, dammit, go grab your friends (or make new ones) and ride the snot out of your bikes. Be sure to take lots of pictures and post up ride reports.


Edit: Regarding my comment of George "paying the bills"--I do recognize that members may choose to support the site financially. I just don't believe that anyone should expect entitlement for doing so. That isn't the spirit of the place, in my own opinion.

[ArrrKelly]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

I came to a conclusion: I'm now a little hesitant referring people to this site, because it may be "shut down" at any time by the whims of its owner.

Sometimes we must come to hard conclusions in our lives. I admire your courage.

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

It was also a bummer that private messages and the calendar were also shut down. I have learned to not rely on these anymore.

We were all a little lost without the calendar.

[guero]

it was offline only for around 12 hours....not that big of a deal imho. so many people on here are acting like this website is oxygen, and you can't carry on with regular life as you know it without www.socaltrailriders.org being up and running...seriously, is it that big of a deal?

and, well said mark.

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by sladnas

Finally, dammit, go grab your friends (or make new ones) and ride the snot out of your bikes. Be sure to take lots of pictures and post up ride reports.

well done captain!!!!

[RacinJason]

I still don't know what the doo hickey things about.

I was setting up a transaction when bam my $hit went down.

If the site was under maintenance that is understandable.
But I got no warning so I didn't have the persons number to call if the site was down.

To make things a bit more streamline in the future a warning would be nice.
or just close the forums and let is use out mail boxes and PMs .

Of all people I understand how the Mods need a break some times. I have had to work crazy hrs with no breaks. I am on here enough and I can't read everything on here . Not even close. They must have burning eyes trying to keep up.