1st Annual STR Vintage Bike Happening

[Solo]

Originally Posted by HUGH

HUGH

Nice "accents". Is that an original Tioga Psycho on the front?

[slowSSer]

hugh's bike brings up a question: does the bike need to have all of it's original equipment? I'd love to convert the old cannondale to a ss for the ride, but that'd get rid of quite a bit of vintage suntour components.

just curious.

[art23rockpile]

Originally Posted by slowSSer

hugh's bike brings up a question: does the bike need to have all of it's original equipment? I'd love to convert the old cannondale to a ss for the ride, but that'd get rid of quite a bit of vintage suntour components.

just curious.

That's a good question. It would depend on the degree of period accuracy or the intended function for the bike. To be 100% vintage, everything -even the nuts & bolts- would need to date from the time of the bike's manufacture. Maybe Vince can chime in on this.

My guess is that for this event, the frame is the first consideration.

As someone who began riding MTBs in the mid-80s, I can say that unless i'm mistaken, singlespeeds were very uncommon. So, many vintage bikes that are converted to SS may be fun and cool, but are probably not "truly" vintage.

[Wrecker]

Can we get a *cough cough* cutest jersey contest in there?

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by OMR

3. TBD (ideas encouraged - whatcha think???)

i say have a repack contestfastest to disassemble and grease bearings wins get your old coaster brakes ready!

either that or a look like gary fisher contest

[COLEKO]

Originally Posted by slowSSer

hugh's bike brings up a question: does the bike need to have all of it's original equipment? I'd love to convert the old cannondale to a ss for the ride, but that'd get rid of quite a bit of vintage suntour components.

just curious.

I dont see the problem with it. If the frame is vintage then thats good enough in my book . My Bike is converted to SS and the only original stuff on the bike are the wheels hubs and brakes. Its kinda like fixing up a old car you cant always go original parts.

[L8 APEKS]

Originally Posted by COLEKO

I dont see the problem with it. If the frame is vintage then thats good enough in my book . My Bike is converted to SS and the only original stuff on the bike are the wheels hubs and brakes. Its kinda like fixing up a old car you cant always go original parts.

Not only that, but many of these original parts from 30 years ago suck...not to mention the "leaned-over-the-front-of-the bike-like-a-roadie" geometry on all the early bikes (first thing I did was add a riser bar)...and people would clearly be building the bike back to OE specs just for this one ride, then going back to the way it's normally ridden after they win. I don't think that should count. It should be a run-what-you-brung contest.

Besides, the point of this isn't to WIN guys...it's to check out all the older bikes and have a fun ride on a bunch of dinosaurs. The contest was an afterthought. Let's not forget that.

Why not two separate categories? One for all-original, and then just an "overall" category?

[duke777]

Originally Posted by HUGH

HUGH

WOW!!!! Are those OG AC cranks????????? PIMPlishes!!!!!

[Upchuck]

Originally Posted by art23rockpile

That's a good question. It would depend on the degree of period accuracy or the intended function for the bike. To be 100% vintage, everything -even the nuts & bolts- would need to date from the time of the bike's manufacture. Maybe Vince can chime in on this.

My guess is that for this event, the frame is the first consideration.

As someone who began riding MTBs in the mid-80s, I can say that unless i'm mistaken, singlespeeds were very uncommon. So, many vintage bikes that are converted to SS may be fun and cool, but are probably not "truly" vintage.

I'm with Art on this one. To be considered a true vintage bike, it has to have a period (era) correct build from top to bottom. I think tires are an exception since the old gumwalls tend to crack from age and are unsafe for trail riding.

That doesn't mean your vintage frame/mod build isn't cool or welcome. Obviously we want everyone to come out and enjoy the event.


It's not meant to be exclusive to those who show up wearing the same socks they wore back in the day. Although I'd wear them if I could find them...

[Upchuck]

Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

Not only that, but many of these original parts from 30 years ago suck...not to mention the "leaned-over-the-front-of-the bike-like-a-roadie" geometry on all the early bikes (first thing I did was add a riser bar)...and people would clearly be building the bike back to OE specs just for this one ride, then going back to the way it's normally ridden after they win.

After they win? I thought the whole purpose of this ride was to celebrate the origins of our passion. I say buck up and ride the old school parts. I personally ride the same trails on my 20 year old bikes as I do on my '08 rig. I just slow down a bit and enjoy the moment.

Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

I don't think that should count. It should be a run-what-you-brung contest.

Besides, the point of this isn't to WIN guys...it's to check out all the older bikes and have a fun ride on a bunch of dinosaurs. The contest was an afterthought. Let's not forget that.

Why not two separate categories? One for all-original, and then just an "overall" category?

Not a bad idea. Kind of like a "Vintage Mod" class and a "Authentic Vintage" class.

[COLEKO]

Originally Posted by Upchuck

I'm with Art on this one. To be considered a true vintage bike, it has to have a period (era) correct build from top to bottom. I think tires are an exception since the old gumwalls tend to crack from age and are unsafe for trail riding.

That doesn't mean your vintage frame/mod build isn't cool or welcome. Obviously we want everyone to come out and enjoy the event.


It's not meant to be exclusive to those who show up wearing the same socks they wore back in the day. Although I'd wear them if I could find them...

I agree with the True vintage bike should have period correct parts.

But dont forget you can still order gumwall tires.
http://www.firstflightbikes.com/TimbukTire.htm

[Upchuck]

Originally Posted by COLEKO

I agree with the True vintage bike should have period correct parts.

But dont forget you can still order gumwall tires.
http://www.firstflightbikes.com/TimbukTire.htm

I'm running them on a few of my bikes.


So maybe we should agree on what's acceptable on an Authentic Vintage bike:

1. modern or reproduction tires
2. modern pedals (I'd hate to scratch up my NOS pedals. They're worth over $80 and are getting hard to find)
3. shifter and brake cables

Any other thoughts?

[autoduel]

Originally Posted by Upchuck

Any other thoughts?

When did this turn into a competition?
I thought we were just getting together to show off cool bike parts that haven't been around for a long time and have a good time. We don't want to scare anyone off from joining us with a "non-authentic" bike. A cool old bike should reflect the owner, not the marketing price-point of a big company.

[L8 APEKS]

Yep...that's why I was sure to mention...the "contest" was just an afterthought. Personally, I couldn't care less about a contest. I just want to enjoy looking at some old bikes and have a fun (rigid) ride!

The RIDE and the FRIENDS are the main attraction here!

And you DO NOT have to own an old bike to attend! Please, come enjoy the dinosaurs with us on whatever you normally ride!!!

[G-Ride]

What a cool idea, but all of my old bikes have either been stolen, sold, given away, or stripped down to the frame. Would an early 90s (non-looptail) PK Ripper qualify? Also, in all these years I've never ridden the Loop. How friendly would it be for a fully rigid 20" single speed with 42/16 gearing?

[L8 APEKS]

Originally Posted by G-Ride

What a cool idea, but all of my old bikes have either been stolen, sold, given away, or stripped down to the frame. Would an early 90s (non-looptail) PK Ripper qualify? Also, in all these years I've never ridden the Loop. How friendly would it be for a fully rigid 20" single speed with 42/16 gearing?

There are a couple small hills you would have to walk, but 95% would be rideable. You should bring it! Lots of guys ride rigid single speeds there, just not a lot of 20". I was gonna bring my 24" but I couldn't find wheels.

[Solo]

Originally Posted by G-Ride

What a cool idea, but all of my old bikes have either been stolen, sold, given away, or stripped down to the frame. Would an early 90s (non-looptail) PK Ripper qualify? Also, in all these years I've never ridden the Loop. How friendly would it be for a fully rigid 20" single speed with 42/16 gearing?

Bring the Ripper!!! The fact that any of these are still left make them "vintage". I cracked every one I had including a "mini" ripper.