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cjwally · 12-03-2007, 12:11 PM

This ride is fun. Be fully prepared for a long day full of climbing and descending. I believe the ride is around 30+ miles. Click here for a recap of the ride Last years RR. Typically the group meets at the IMAX theatre and shuttles to the top from there. This time we are going to mix it up a little and instead of finishing with Cindy Whitehead, we are going to do Art Smith trail. We will be meeting at (see link below). When heading up the 74 from Palm Springs, this is the end of the Art Smith trail. Here there is a parking lot with a big sign that says "Art Smith Trailhead." You almost can't miss it. Don't be confused though, shuttling this ride doesn't make it easy. Here are the details:

When: 12/23/07 @ 7AM (At Map location)
Where: Click Here (in Palm Springs)
What: Palm Canyon Epic / Art Smith

After the ride, we usually hit up this Mexi place to eat and drink

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Let's figure this out. Post any questions...

Any questions?

Update: Since it seems like people think that we may not make it out before dark, I would recommend bringing your lights if you have them for your bike. To ensure that we are off the trail before dark and don't hold up the group, please make sure that you have some sort of tire sealant system ie: tubeless w. stans, tuffy liners, slime tubes, etc.

CalEpic · 12-03-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm not trying to hijack this but would there be any interest in mixing things up a little by finishing with Art Smith instead of Cindy Whitehead? I've never ridden Art Smith and would like to check it out. If not, I'm fine with the regular route.

Art Smith would make the shuttle a little less time consuming too.

cjwally · 12-03-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CalEpic

I'm not trying to hijack this but would there be any interest in mixing things up a little by finishing with Art Smith instead of Cindy Whitehead? I've never ridden Art Smith and would like to check it out. If not, I'm fine with the regular route.

Art Smith would make the shuttle a little less time consuming too.

Mixin' it up Craig.... We are doing it... Art Smith Style

denmother · 12-03-2007, 01:12 PM

What, you guys don't want to go to Bootleg with us? What's up with that?

allison · 12-03-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by denmother

What, you guys don't want to go to Bootleg with us? What's up with that?

Craig's pretty good on his SS hard tail, but I think DHing at Bootleg may be more difficult for him

CalEpic · 12-03-2007, 02:34 PM

Thanks for switching this up, C. Hahn and Cindy's is a lot of fun. Hopefully it's worth it.

Nancy - Bootleg would be awesome but I'm heading to AZ on the 24th so that would be a lot of driving. Have fun out there.

C

denmother · 12-03-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CalEpic

Nancy - Bootleg would be awesome but I'm heading to AZ on the 24th so that would be a lot of driving. Have fun out there.

C

We will miss you!!!

cjwally · 12-03-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by allison

Craig's pretty good on his SS hard tail, but I think DHing at Bootleg may be more difficult for him

LOL...What do I say to this....Let me get back to ya!

Allison - You and the hubbie down for this one? I promise a great time and beers to follow the ride on my behalf....

bighit8 · 12-03-2007, 03:19 PM

It was nice to meet you Craig, we need to ride in the near future, thanks for the hook-up and the cold brew.Chat with you soon! I'm up for Palm canyon very soon.

bighit8 · 12-03-2007, 03:25 PM

I just noticed the date 12/23. I would love to go, count me in! Hopefully I can give the bike a trial run!!! Thanks

cjwally · 12-03-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bighit8

It was nice to meet you Craig, we need to ride in the near future, thanks for the hook-up and the cold brew.Chat with you soon! I'm up for Palm canyon very soon.

Danny...The goose is perfect for this ride! This is a must do ride. Hope your back feels better from your fall at the loop! Then...Palm Canyon is on!

Ladd Jasper · 12-03-2007, 04:52 PM

I'll have to get off my duff and convert the Terremoto to tubeless, but yeah, I'd really like to make this ride.

Currently working weekends and will have to lobby for the day off, hence the "Maybe."

Tom Cosgrove · 12-03-2007, 11:07 PM

Yo Craig,
I don't know if we can finish this ride in the winter.
This means we have to ride the wash, or ride back up dunn rd to the oasis. If we have to climb dunn we are adding 1 hour to pce, adding art smith adds 2-3 hours to pce. That means 81/2 to 9 hrs on the trail with no mechanicals or flats! There isn't any water any where on this ride. A minimum of 150 oz. will be needed.
I might suggest climbing dunn to art smith and doing this loop of about 22 miles as a tester before looping this to pce. This ride is more strenuous than pce with more technical climbing.
Something to ponder

CalEpic · 12-04-2007, 06:33 AM

Tom - If we cut out Hahn Buena Vista and took Art Smith from the Oasis wouldn't that actually be a shorter ride?

MTBMaven · 12-04-2007, 06:51 AM

7AM Dang I've got to leave Pasadena at like 5AM. I should have my new 29er built by then and want to make this ride. I have been wanting to do this ride for years.

dstepper · 12-04-2007, 06:55 AM

Sometime before February I am looking to do Art Smith Trail as a out and back. There is also a trail on Santa Rosa Mt. called Sawmill Trail that has my interest.

cjwally · 12-04-2007, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dstepper

Sometime before February I am looking to do Art Smith Trail as a out and back. There is also a trail on Santa Rosa Mt. called Sawmill Trail that has my interest.

Dean,

Brian from The Path was telling me a few weeks ago, he climbed Santa Rosa down sawmill to Palm Canyon to the Oasis, and down Art Smith. All in one day. He mentioned that is was around 45 miles. Now that is ballz.

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Originally Posted by CalEpic

Tom - If we cut out Hahn Buena Vista and took Art Smith from the Oasis wouldn't that actually be a shorter ride?

Exactly what I was thinking. I am checking egoladders right now...

After checking ego, I calculated that Art Smith is almost 7 miles long with climbing involved... Thoughts? I think we will be fine if we cut out Hahns and just to Art.

dstepper · 12-04-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cjwally

Dean,

Brian from The Path was telling me a few weeks ago, he climbed Santa Rosa down sawmill to Palm Canyon to the Oasis, and down Art Smith. All in one day. He mentioned that is was around 45 miles. Now that is ballz.

Exactly what I was thinking. I am checking egoladders right now...

Yep Brian is the man....

cjwally · 12-04-2007, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dstepper

Yep Brian is the man....

Indeed he is... I would love to attempt that. Not on a SS though...

ShinKen · 12-04-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cjwally

Exactly what I was thinking. I am checking egoladders right now...

After checking ego, I calculated that Art Smith is almost 7 miles long with climbing involved... Thoughts? I think we will be fine if we cut out Hahns and just to Art.

I say DOOOOOO it!! hey if we're running late we just have to pedal faster!!!

12-03-2007, 12:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
CalEpic STR Moderator	I'm not trying to hijack this but would there be any interest in mixing things up a little by finishing with Art Smith instead of Cindy Whitehead? I've never ridden Art Smith and would like to check it out. If not, I'm fine with the regular route. Art Smith would make the shuttle a little less time consuming too. __________________ ShinKen: OOhhh helLSS YEsS!~!!! JoeTruth: As far as I'm concerned, I could really care less. Just ride your damn bike and STFU already

12-03-2007, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
CalEpic STR Moderator	Thanks for switching this up, C. Hahn and Cindy's is a lot of fun. Hopefully it's worth it. Nancy - Bootleg would be awesome but I'm heading to AZ on the 24th so that would be a lot of driving. Have fun out there. C __________________ ShinKen: OOhhh helLSS YEsS!~!!! JoeTruth: As far as I'm concerned, I could really care less. Just ride your damn bike and STFU already

12-03-2007, 03:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
bighit8 STR Veteran	It was nice to meet you Craig, we need to ride in the near future, thanks for the hook-up and the cold brew.Chat with you soon! I'm up for Palm canyon very soon. __________________ singletrack angel: is that a real hole Fred? Mtbnbikefred: Yes,I have stuck all kind of things in it.

12-03-2007, 03:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
bighit8 STR Veteran	I just noticed the date 12/23. I would love to go, count me in! Hopefully I can give the bike a trial run!!! Thanks __________________ singletrack angel: is that a real hole Fred? Mtbnbikefred: Yes,I have stuck all kind of things in it.

12-03-2007, 11:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tom Cosgrove Tom the Bomb	pce/art smith Yo Craig, I don't know if we can finish this ride in the winter. This means we have to ride the wash, or ride back up dunn rd to the oasis. If we have to climb dunn we are adding 1 hour to pce, adding art smith adds 2-3 hours to pce. That means 81/2 to 9 hrs on the trail with no mechanicals or flats! There isn't any water any where on this ride. A minimum of 150 oz. will be needed. I might suggest climbing dunn to art smith and doing this loop of about 22 miles as a tester before looping this to pce. This ride is more strenuous than pce with more technical climbing. Something to ponder __________________ Keep the Zen.

12-03-2007, 12:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
cjwally	Palm Canyon Epic / Art Smith - 12/23 This ride is fun. Be fully prepared for a long day full of climbing and descending. I believe the ride is around 30+ miles. Click here for a recap of the ride Last years RR. Typically the group meets at the IMAX theatre and shuttles to the top from there. This time we are going to mix it up a little and instead of finishing with Cindy Whitehead, we are going to do Art Smith trail. We will be meeting at (see link below). When heading up the 74 from Palm Springs, this is the end of the Art Smith trail. Here there is a parking lot with a big sign that says "Art Smith Trailhead." You almost can't miss it. Don't be confused though, shuttling this ride doesn't make it easy. Here are the details: When: 12/23/07 @ 7AM (At Map location) Where: Click Here (in Palm Springs) What: Palm Canyon Epic / Art Smith After the ride, we usually hit up this Mexi place to eat and drink . Let's figure this out. Post any questions... Any questions? Update: Since it seems like people think that we may not make it out before dark, I would recommend bringing your lights if you have them for your bike. To ensure that we are off the trail before dark and don't hold up the group, please make sure that you have some sort of tire sealant system ie: tubeless w. stans, tuffy liners, slime tubes, etc.

12-03-2007, 01:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
denmother	What, you guys don't want to go to Bootleg with us? What's up with that? __________________ My Blog/My Sponsorhouse profile ~Weekends are like recess for adults so play hard until the bell rings Gene Hamilton: Happy, friendly people that may not be the best athletes are more fun than arrogant "experts".

12-03-2007, 04:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ladd Jasper Malcontent	I'll have to get off my duff and convert the Terremoto to tubeless, but yeah, I'd really like to make this ride. Currently working weekends and will have to lobby for the day off, hence the "Maybe."

12-04-2007, 06:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
CalEpic STR Moderator	Tom - If we cut out Hahn Buena Vista and took Art Smith from the Oasis wouldn't that actually be a shorter ride? __________________ ShinKen: OOhhh helLSS YEsS!~!!! JoeTruth: As far as I'm concerned, I could really care less. Just ride your damn bike and STFU already

12-04-2007, 06:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
MTBMaven Tom Brady Look A Like	7AM Dang I've got to leave Pasadena at like 5AM. I should have my new 29er built by then and want to make this ride. I have been wanting to do this ride for years. __________________ You must be the change you wish to see in the world Mahatma Gandhi Border? I have never seen one. But I have heard they exist in the minds of some people. Thor Heyerdahl All steel stable: '08 DeSalvo - '07 Niner MCR9 - '89 Specialized Sirrus fixed/free

12-04-2007, 06:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
dstepper Over the Hill	Sometime before February I am looking to do Art Smith Trail as a out and back. There is also a trail on Santa Rosa Mt. called Sawmill Trail that has my interest. __________________ If I'm not lost or getting bushwacked, the trail was too easy. Prescott Valley Houses The Path

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