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JamR · 11-09-2007, 07:48 AM

I doubt that any of the O.C. trails up to Main Divide would be opened since they just barely finished making the announcement of full containment of the Santiago Fire, and they still have equipment and personnel mobilized up in the area.

As of this morning the following trails/areas still shown closed.
Maple Springs
Blackstar
Skyline
Los Pinos
Main Divide (North and South)
Beeks Place
Sierra Peak
Indian Truck Trail
and probably more that I did not list.

Just make sure you verify that any area you are riding this weekend has officially been opened.

And more important; make sure you stay on the traditional trails once we have access to these areas again. There is a big temptation to start riding different lines because now there are literally hundreds of animal trails completely visible that look very tempting to follow.

Just give the areas the chance to come back to their pre-fire condition without placing any additional stress on the habitat.

I'm very anxious myself to have a look at STT, Old Camp, and the Luge; but will need to wait for the official opening.

See ya on the (crowded) trails

ericfoltz · 11-09-2007, 07:59 AM

Looks like San Juan will be busy.

genusmtbkr5 · 11-09-2007, 08:04 AM

3 threads on the same subject. Threads merged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericfoltz

Looks like San Juan will be busy.

Call and check first or it will be a wasted drive to San Juan.

DeeZee · 11-09-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericfoltz

Looks like San Juan will be busy.

I think it will be early Sunday for me and Scooter.....

Scutr · 11-09-2007, 08:31 AM

Just got off the phone with Trabuco ranger station.As of Saturday 11/10
Blackstar-open
Holy Jim - open
San Juan- open
Thank the lord above

allison · 11-09-2007, 08:32 AM

Nice! I'm really missing SJT lately.. I may even SS it Thanksgiving morning!

JamR · 11-09-2007, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scutr

Just got off the phone with Trabuco ranger station.As of Saturday 11/10
Blackstar-open
Holy Jim - open
San Juan- open
Thank the lord above

Good news for sure!

Blackstar on Sunday sounds like a good plan for me.

dubjay · 11-09-2007, 08:42 AM

Do you guys know if Blackstar to Motorway will be available?

Scutr · 11-09-2007, 08:44 AM

Blackstar is only open to beeks place. The main dicvide is still closed for the most part

genusmtbkr5 · 11-09-2007, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scutr

Just got off the phone with Trabuco ranger station.As of Saturday 11/10
Blackstar-open
Holy Jim - open
San Juan- open
Thank the lord above

Ok here is the latest at 9:45am;
Main Divide is closed from Beek's Place to Indian Truck Trail.

Silverado Motorway is closed

Harding truck Trail is closed

So you can go up to Beek's and no further, also up Lower Holy Jim and no Further. Lots of out and backs is better than nothing

DeeZee · 11-09-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Scutr

Blackstar is only open to beeks place. The main dicvide is still closed for the most part

lets ride the Fully Loop

genusmtbkr5 · 11-09-2007, 10:28 AM

West Horse Thief/Trabuco lollypop loop is available.

ericfoltz · 11-09-2007, 03:00 PM

So here's a good one. I'm riding up the Aliso Creek Bike Trail near the Whiting Interpretive Center and come across a 5-gallon gas can sitting in the middle of the road. Seems like the fire crews would be a little more aware of leaving combustibles laying around unattended. Reported it at the IC and they went out and picked it up.

Didn't think it would look too good to be seen riding towards Cook's carrying a gas can or I would have picked it up myself.

Pain Freak · 11-09-2007, 03:02 PM

Smart man!

Pilas · 11-13-2007, 08:14 AM

Is Maple Springs closed? If so, are there any plans of reopening it soon.
We are trying to plan our annual Thanksgiving ride to 4 corners. If it is still closed, we are thinking about San Juan, although it will be hard to bring the coffee and pastries up to Cocktail rock....

dubjay · 11-13-2007, 08:19 AM

Yes, Maple Springs is closed as of right now. Here's a link to a page that lists all the closures.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/conditions/

genusmtbkr5 · 11-13-2007, 08:19 AM

Maple Springs is in the close area of the map. I was at RockNRoad Mission Viejo and spoke with Traci and she was saying Aliso Top of the World. Not sure when it'll open. I doubt by next week. Who puts on this ride? Here is the link; PDF of Santiago Fire Closures

ericfoltz · 11-13-2007, 08:25 AM

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/co...irestorm.shtml

gregspangler · 11-26-2007, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericfoltz

So here's a good one. I'm riding up the Aliso Creek Bike Trail near the Whiting Interpretive Center and come across a 5-gallon gas can sitting in the middle of the road. Seems like the fire crews would be a little more aware of leaving combustibles laying around unattended. Reported it at the IC and they went out and picked it up.

Didn't think it would look too good to be seen riding towards Cook's carrying a gas can or I would have picked it up myself.

Crews would never intentionally leave equipment lying around. They dont ever want to get a call saying their stuff is somewhere where it shouldn't be. They might have been in the dark and just overlooked it. It wouldn't have been a bad thing for you to pick it up and take it away, taking away the possibility of someone causing trouble with it. Either way, you did good.

5large · 11-30-2007, 01:34 PM

The order opening Cleveland effective Nov. 20th can be found here:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/co...irestorm.shtml
I am going to ride this weekend to see the damage. Count me in on a trail group if someone would like to coordinate.

11-09-2007, 07:48 AM	#21 (permalink)
JamR STR Veteran	I doubt that any of the O.C. trails up to Main Divide would be opened since they just barely finished making the announcement of full containment of the Santiago Fire, and they still have equipment and personnel mobilized up in the area. As of this morning the following trails/areas still shown closed. Maple Springs Blackstar Skyline Los Pinos Main Divide (North and South) Beeks Place Sierra Peak Indian Truck Trail and probably more that I did not list. Just make sure you verify that any area you are riding this weekend has officially been opened. And more important; make sure you stay on the traditional trails once we have access to these areas again. There is a big temptation to start riding different lines because now there are literally hundreds of animal trails completely visible that look very tempting to follow. Just give the areas the chance to come back to their pre-fire condition without placing any additional stress on the habitat. I'm very anxious myself to have a look at STT, Old Camp, and the Luge; but will need to wait for the official opening. See ya on the (crowded) trails __________________ See ya on the trails

11-09-2007, 08:31 AM	#25 (permalink)
Scutr Member	limited forest opening Just got off the phone with Trabuco ranger station.As of Saturday 11/10 Blackstar-open Holy Jim - open San Juan- open Thank the lord above Last edited by genusmtbkr5; 11-09-2007 at 08:40 AM. Reason: thread merged with extisting thread again!

11-09-2007, 08:32 AM	#26 (permalink)
allison Gone ridin'	Nice! I'm really missing SJT lately.. I may even SS it Thanksgiving morning! __________________

11-09-2007, 10:28 AM	#32 (permalink)
genusmtbkr5 Single Track Mind	West Horse Thief/Trabuco lollypop loop is available. __________________ Gene"GuidesNewWarriors" *http://www.warriorssociety.org/* *http://www.sharemtb.com/*

11-09-2007, 03:00 PM	#33 (permalink)
ericfoltz Sua Sponte	So here's a good one. I'm riding up the Aliso Creek Bike Trail near the Whiting Interpretive Center and come across a 5-gallon gas can sitting in the middle of the road. Seems like the fire crews would be a little more aware of leaving combustibles laying around unattended. Reported it at the IC and they went out and picked it up. Didn't think it would look too good to be seen riding towards Cook's carrying a gas can or I would have picked it up myself. __________________ Portfolio: http://www.ericfoltz.com Race & Event pics: http://www.ericfoltz.photoreflect.com

11-09-2007, 07:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
ericfoltz Sua Sponte	Looks like San Juan will be busy.

11-09-2007, 08:42 AM	#28 (permalink)
dubjay STR Veteran	Do you guys know if Blackstar to Motorway will be available?

11-09-2007, 08:44 AM	#29 (permalink)
Scutr Member	Blackstar is only open to beeks place. The main dicvide is still closed for the most part

11-09-2007, 03:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
Pain Freak Directionally Challenged	Smart man! __________________ "The best rides are the ones where you bite off much more than you can chew—and live through it." — Doug Bradbury "When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way so I stole one and asked Him to forgive me." — Emo Philips

11-13-2007, 08:14 AM	#35 (permalink)
Pilas Senior Member	Status of Maple Springs? Is Maple Springs closed? If so, are there any plans of reopening it soon. We are trying to plan our annual Thanksgiving ride to 4 corners. If it is still closed, we are thinking about San Juan, although it will be hard to bring the coffee and pastries up to Cocktail rock.... Last edited by genusmtbkr5; 11-13-2007 at 08:24 AM. Reason: merged with existing thread

11-13-2007, 08:19 AM	#36 (permalink)
dubjay STR Veteran	Yes, Maple Springs is closed as of right now. Here's a link to a page that lists all the closures. http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/conditions/

11-13-2007, 08:19 AM	#37 (permalink)
genusmtbkr5 Single Track Mind	Maple Springs is in the close area of the map. I was at RockNRoad Mission Viejo and spoke with Traci and she was saying Aliso Top of the World. Not sure when it'll open. I doubt by next week. Who puts on this ride? Here is the link; *PDF of Santiago Fire Closures* __________________ Gene"GuidesNewWarriors" *http://www.warriorssociety.org/* *http://www.sharemtb.com/*

11-13-2007, 08:25 AM	#38 (permalink)
ericfoltz Sua Sponte	http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/co...irestorm.shtml __________________ Portfolio: http://www.ericfoltz.com Race & Event pics: http://www.ericfoltz.photoreflect.com

11-30-2007, 01:34 PM	#40 (permalink)
5large Junior Member	Cleveland Natl. Forest Open - Luge / Old Camp The order opening Cleveland effective Nov. 20th can be found here: http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/cleveland/co...irestorm.shtml I am going to ride this weekend to see the damage. Count me in on a trail group if someone would like to coordinate.

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