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VQ/CC Training ride Holy Jim to Trabuco and Back
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11-17-2007
With Thanksgiving next week and the Sladnas/firestorm newbie ride the following weekend, I thought I'd squeeze in another training ride before then. Here is the route, park at Live Oak/Trabuco wash area(VQ/CC finish line). Ride in, climb Lower HJ to Main Divide, then over to Trabuco and descend, swing up and climb, hike, ride, crawl up West Horse Thief and back over toward Holy Jim. We can ride up to Upper now that it's open and come down that before coming down Lower HJ.

There are some bailout points. You do not have to go up WHT or if you do then you do not have to do Upper HJ. You can even do just the first climb up Lower HJ and then head back down. Even that would be hard for beginners. Those that do will put in over 40 miles and about 9000 ft of gain. How's that for a training ride? Hope you can join me.

Meet at the wash area on Trabuco/Live Oak at 7:30am
Ride time: 8:00am

Choices, sure..,

Ride #1- Holy Jim out and back(approx 19 miles)
Ride #2-Holy Jim to Trabuco(Toad Course-27 miles)
Ride #3- Same as #2 but going up WHT then back to Holy Jim and down.
Ride #4- Full Tour, Ride #3 plus up to upper HJ then down LHJ

At some point during the ride, you'll have to let me know which ride or bailout you're doing so I know where you are. I don't want to leave anyone behind. You don't have to decide now, just let someone know you are taking one of the bailouts so they can let me know.

Bring extra tubes, something to eat/snack, and plenty of water, this ride could take up to 6 hours (I hope not).

Sorry, this is not a newbie or beginner/intermediate ride. This is a training ride for intermediate/advance riders. Know your limits. There is alot of distance that has to be covered, this is to insure that it does not hold up the group too long. Thanks.

A view of Lower Holy Jim


Upper Holy Jim


Trabuco


West Horse Thief
RSVP'd Yes: 9
  • slayer [11-13-2007 12:26 PM] - sounds like a good time to me!!
  • db250f [11-13-2007 02:00 PM] - I'll make like a sheep and follow! baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  • queenwilhelmina [11-13-2007 02:11 PM] - I'm in.
  • genusmtbkr5 [11-13-2007 06:39 PM] - Sorry, forgot to rsvp. Did I really need rsvp though?
  • Kish Me [11-13-2007 09:20 PM] - I may be pushing some!
  • autoduel [11-14-2007 12:03 AM] - Always up fo a "fun" ride
  • jcampbell [11-14-2007 07:40 AM] - think i am in
  • Vickie [11-14-2007 01:21 PM] - Lemming suicide is a frequently-used metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion, with potentially dangerous or fatal consequences -- -- Hmmmmm, I'm in....the lemming is in
  • El Prieto [02-15-2008 12:14 PM]
RSVP'd Maybe: 2
  • DeeZee [11-13-2007 04:30 PM] - The last time I hiked up WHT (three weeks ago) I said it would be my last!
  • jasonmason [11-16-2007 02:48 PM] - Gotta get my chainring fixed from last night - should be done in tonight
RSVP'd No: 8
  • Pho'dUp [11-13-2007 10:51 AM] - In Temecula. But keep posting Gene, next time for me.
  • ShinKen [11-13-2007 11:01 AM] - sorry but may do the SART! but if things change maybe!! this is a great route and want to do soon.
  • bjammin [11-14-2007 07:02 AM] - 12 hrs of temecula
  • guero [11-15-2007 09:46 AM] - i'll bein malibu on saturday, so im gonna hit this on sunday
  • cH4os [11-15-2007 10:22 AM] - Damn! 12hours of Vail.
  • Endo Verendo [11-16-2007 03:03 PM] - Can't pass up a Chilao ride
  • Abui [11-16-2007 04:24 PM] - Cracked frame today.
  • xhuskr [11-17-2007 03:28 PM] - shorter ride needed first..but i'll be back...trust me!
 
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hey gene. any interest in organizing one of these rides for the thanksgiving weekend - sunday maybe?
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i'll be there gene, can't wait to hike up WHT!!
hey tim, i'll be up for something that weekend if gene doesn't plan anything! later, chris
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cool. lets plan it
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Gene...I'm now convinced that you are doping with this as a 'TRAINING' ride
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hey gene. any interest in organizing one of these rides for the thanksgiving weekend - sunday maybe?
I'm hoping something else opens up in The Santa Ana's, like Harding and Motorway, if not, I probably will post a Loop around LCWP and El Moro. I work sunday night so it won't be an all day event, but will still work ya.

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Gene...I'm now convinced that you are doping with this as a 'TRAINING' ride
Just think Kevin, when the real VQ/CC or Traverse comes, it'll be a walk in the park.

Edit; start time moved up 30 min.
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What time are you planning to kick off this ride?
 
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What time are you planning to kick off this ride?
Changed it to 8am
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Do you plan on going up WHT at the split with Trabuco or going down Trabuco (to the gate) and then turning around - retracing what you just descended?

Without UHJ (small detour) the route looks to be 35 miles.
 
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Do you plan on going up WHT at the split with Trabuco or going down Trabuco (to the gate) and then turning around - retracing what you just descended?

Without UHJ (small detour) the route looks to be 35 miles.
We will be going up at the split. Don't know the miles, but up WHT, then back over to the top of Upper HJ on the Main Divide, down Upper HJ and then down Lower HJ, back out to the road seems like alot more than we did Mon and that was 27 miles, but I could be wrong. I changed the estimated miles to "over" 40.

The elevation gain is also an estimate. Geoladders has the Holy Jim to Trabuco at 4,240 ft add Trabuco up WHT which is 3,420 minus the climb frome the HJ parking lot up to Upper HJ, I would guess close to 9000 ft. Again, I could be way off. Anybody know?
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im gonna do hj to trabuco on sunday. i wish i could make this saturday ride, but im gonna be heading up to malibu with some fellow scion'ites to meet up at neptunes net. yes, as seen in The Fast and the Furious, lol.
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Patching together from existing GPS tracks ---

Up Holy Jim down Trabuco to WHT. 14.8 miles 4000'
Up WHT down Lower Holy Jim 11.2 miles 2200'
Upper Holy Jim (wag) round trip 2 miles 950'
Trabuco Creek Road round trip 9 miles 900'

37 miles and 8050'
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Where is this wash at Trabuco/Live oak? Is it the intersection of Trabuco creek road and Trabuco canyon road?
I don't have a vehicle that can make it up Trabuco creek road.
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Where is this wash at Trabuco/Live oak? Is it the intersection of Trabuco creek road and Trabuco canyon road?
Yes, the VQ/CC, Traverse finish area.
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After turning onto Live Oak from Santiago, where is Trabuco? Is it up that one dirt road that goes for a couple miles up to HJ trailhead? I can't remember, it's been a while...
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After turning onto Live Oak from Santiago, where is Trabuco? Is it up that one dirt road that goes for a couple miles up to HJ trailhead? I can't remember, it's been a while...
Trabuco and Live Oak are one in the same. Live Oak becomes Trabuco as you pass O'neill Park main entrance. After passing the water tank and small bridge crossing, you'll see open dirt lot on your left. That's where we'll stage.
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Thanks Gene. I'd use my Thanks button, but it doesn't work when I'm at work.
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Thanks Gene. I'd use my Thanks button, but it doesn't work when I'm at work.
Mine does.
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the FJ guys talk about Holy Jim for wheeling didnt think you could ride there...
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the FJ guys talk about Holy Jim for wheeling didnt think you could ride there...
Can't drive HJ, it's single track with lots of stream crossings.
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