Nite Ride at Blackstar to Skyline to Blackstar or whatever "feels" good!

[genusmtbkr5]

Here's the latest;

Beeks Place; Closed Trabuco

Blackstar Canyon Road; Closed Trabuco
Orange Cty Closed to motorized vehicles. Hiking & Biking OK

Indian Truck Trail; (5S01) Open Trabuco
Riverside Cty

Los Pinos Road; (16S17) Closed Descanso

San Diego Cty Closed due to fire suppression activities, continued fire danger, public health and safety.

Maple Springs Road; (5S04) Closed Trabuco
Orange Cty Closed due to fire suppression activities, continued fire danger, public health and safety.

North Main Divide Road; (3S04) Partially
Open Trabuco
Riverside & Orange Cty A portion is closed from Beeks Place to Indian Truck Trail.
As per the Ranger; open from Lower HJ to Trabuco for hikers and bikes, closed north of Lower HJ to the peak.

Sierra Peak; Closed Trabuco

Skyline Open Trabuco
Orange Cty Key needed - 951-955-1814

South Main Divide; (6S07) Open Trabuco
Riverside & Orange Cty

[Keith B]

Moot point here jsut for the sake of interest: As we're in the land of the free what harm would it be to let anyone into these areas (no motorbikes because they are capable of trashing alot of new trails into now burnt areas) if there was a sign up warning you of the dangers - then wouldnt personal responsibility be OK?!
(I'm assuming no one is heading off trails and causing erosion/habitat issues) Thoughts?

[Fired Yo Momma]

Originally Posted by Keith B

If the fascism gets too much I'm gonna set up a rival site called California Trail Users (CTU) My first member will be Jack Bauer and he's going to take out all the fascists with extreme prejudice and the liberal use of hollow points out on the trail (and we arent talking about the wheeled variety of 'hollow points!')

Can I be Tony Alemeda? The guy is coming back this year as a bad guy!!! I though he was dead but I think its Tony's evil twin brother. Not to get off topic but I love that show and for that one hour on Monday nights I don't talk to nobody or answer any calls.

[Winger]

During the Weir Canyon fire, earlier this year, someone posted about the freshly charred earth containing chemicals that were really bad to breathe.

Last Tuesday I drove Santiago Canyon Road and the smell of smoke was still quite strong.

So....maybe Main Divide is closed because it still isn't safe to breathe the air next to the freshly charred earth.

[genusmtbkr5]

Originally Posted by Keith B

Moot point here jsut for the sake of interest: As we're in the land of the free what harm would it be to let anyone into these areas (no motorbikes because they are capable of trashing alot of new trails into now burnt areas) if there was a sign up warning you of the dangers - then wouldnt personal responsibility be OK?!
(I'm assuming no one is heading off trails and causing erosion/habitat issues) Thoughts?

I was out at HJ today, there was a huge dust cloud over the north end of the Main Divide. I can only assume that they are still doing work up there and that's why those sections are closed. I was told by the ranger that there were heavy equipment, bulldozers and such still up there. The portion of the Main Divide south of Lower HJ was grated maybe to make it easier for firetrucks to drive along the MD. Equipment on the MD may explain the dust clouds today.

[jcampbell]

2 paragraph response:I had a great response to all this BS but I just hit a button and lost it. Here's the deal, this ride has blown up to be the Tuesday Night crew hater thread. Give it a rest, 90% percent of the people don't show up for the rides anyway.

Blackstar was open when we talked about it last week at the bar, if its closed now so be it its closed. Most of us that ride in the middle of the night know that we shouldn't poach. I don't think we have ever poached. If we did, we would be riding something other than the bitch of a ride Santa Ana's every week.

[Keith B]

Jeff you're a Tuesday night rider and I hate you for it. A lot. The boy Bauer told me that you should expect to see a little red dot on your jersey next time you try and night ride out there. There may also be some anti-personel mines on the way up to Blackstar. You've been warned sonny!

[guero]

one thing i know is that poaching is bad.




**if you don't know me, and know the history behind what i put up there ^^^ please refrain from trying to talk sh!t. thanks.

[m210]

Here's the deal, this ride has blown up to be the Tuesday Night crew hater thread.

i dont think thats true. everyone is just trying to share the info on whats open/closed. thats it. post something (ride, question, comment on any topic) that others have info on and you're likely to get a lot of returned posts. its not an attack, its a number of people sharing info.

[jcampbell]

Originally Posted by m210

Here's the deal, this ride has blown up to be the Tuesday Night crew hater thread.

i dont think thats true. everyone is just trying to share the info on whats open/closed. thats it. post something (ride, question, comment on any topic) that others have info on and you're likely to get a lot of returned posts. its not an attack, its a number of people sharing info.

I am just giving Gene a hard time! Besides, its the internet. I am 6'8" 220, drive a Bentley, and date Jessica Alba... wait, I shouldn't fib, but I do date Jessica.

[m210]

fine. stick it to gene...

[guero]

so, what is the word? is it okay to park on blackstar road near the tree farm and ride our bicycles in and up blackstar and turnaround at beeks? this is getting confusing.

[JamR]

Originally Posted by guero

so, what is the word? is it okay to park on blackstar road near the tree farm and ride our bicycles in and up blackstar and turnaround at beeks? this is getting confusing.

Currenty Trabuco District shows Blackstar Canyon closed to vehicles...Open to hiking and biking.

I just don't believe you can go past Beeks place towards Motorway.

The forest service appears to be keeping their website fairly current on the closure status.

Add: Still somewhat confusing. Beeks place shows closed so the assumption would be that you can ride from the bottom gate to the top gate and back.

[Pain Freak]

Originally Posted by Keith B

Any posts or threads about riding known illegal trails will be deleted.

Erm...........Arent you missing an opportunity to let people know which trails arent legal??? I know a lot of people who ride trails that are out of bounds and they dont know better. If you jsut delete the thread then your opportunity to educate jsut got flushed away.

As a side note - I've never seen that list before but some of those things are a little bit churlish, this isnt a police state you know - its the internet.

jsut


Must be a limey thing???

of course we Americans never have typo's.

There now, has the mood be elevated?

[Ladd Jasper]

Originally Posted by Pain Freak

jsut

Must be a limey thing???

of course we Americans never have typo's.

There now, has the mood be elevated?

Just so you know, yes it has be.

Thanks, Mike, but best be careful here--I'd hate to see you get 4'd out:

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Oh, and BTW,

[Schecky]

C'mon you all. Blackstar is [SIZE=3]CLOSED[/SIZE]!!!
[SIZE=1](Art Tuttle told me...)




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PS - Jack RULES!![/SIZE]

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[Pain Freak]

Damn, forgot about #4, now back to our regulary scheduled thread....

[CalEpic]

I'm riding my KTM up Motorway. I'll meet you guys at Beeks.

[genusmtbkr5]

Glad to see everyone's sense of humor is still intact. I will call The ranger's office at 8am when they open and update this thread on openings and closures. As far as Black Star Canyon Rd, that would be a county thing and not the Cleveland National Forest that controls parking along the road.