RR: Palm canyon epic

[CalEpic]

Originally Posted by mechmann

i would like to do this ride, but it won't be till next winter for sure. i don't currently have the right bike..

Stop being a effing pu$$y. Your Niner is perfect for this ride. Jose did it SS with a rigid fork. Just bring a real chainring this time.

C

[dft]

Originally Posted by osmarandsara

Everthought of doing it this way? My bike weighs around 28 lbs......the carrier is an EvenFlo TrialTec Child Carrier...one sold on e-bay for about $18 bucks the other day.....

interesting option. but i think pushing it would still be a tad easier? its a fairly technical trail, i myself want a bike heavier than 28(that's just preference though). the trail has hundreds of like 8-10 inch drops, so i just lift up the front tire on the HAB, not too bad. its just a slow/steady/long pace up the mountain. i stash 2 water bottles on the way up so even if i run out of water up top, i have some for later in the ride. (and makes load lighter)

[dft]

Originally Posted by cjwally

OMG you are the man.... This is my new mission, but with winter here and all the rains/snow, I am a little late. October would prob be the best.

This is an epic journey for sure...

yea window for ride is only spring/fall. ideal bike is a 6 inch bike, beefy tires, 8 inch rotors, something like 33-36 pounds. i'm actually only going to do the first 6000 feet next time, its gets very steep and very technical after that. doing 6000 will make a purely enjoyable ride, not pushed for daylight and not ending ride with no water. we start with 100 ounzes, 2 bottles and down a bottle right before starting (pratically burping up water), still ran out last time.

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by dft

interesting option. but i think pushing it would still be a tad easier? its a fairly technical trail, i myself want a bike heavier than 28(that's just preference though). the trail has hundreds of like 8-10 inch drops, so i just lift up the front tire on the HAB, not too bad. its just a slow/steady/long pace up the mountain. i stash 2 water bottles on the way up so even if i run out of water up top, i have some for later in the ride. (and makes load lighter)

dft, would it be just rediculous to do this trail on a Niner Sir9? Hardcore or rediculous? But, by the time the snow melts up there, I may be riding a Lenz Behemoth or Lunchbox....

Originally Posted by dft

yea window for ride is only spring/fall. ideal bike is a 6 inch bike, beefy tires, 8 inch rotors, something like 33-36 pounds. i'm actually only going to do the first 6000 feet next time, its gets very steep and very technical after that. doing 6000 will make a purely enjoyable ride, not pushed for daylight and not ending ride with no water. we start with 100 ounzes, 2 bottles and down a bottle right before starting (pratically burping up water), still ran out last time.

I am interested in joining you next time....Shoot me a PM when you start getting things together...

Originally Posted by CalEpic

Stop being a effing pu$$y. Your Niner is perfect for this ride. Jose did it SS with a rigid fork. Just bring a real chainring this time.

C

Craig, I think Justin may be referring to the 8000' hike a bike ride... If not, I thought the Sir9 was the perfect bike to ride for the PCE.

[osmarandsara]

Originally Posted by dft

interesting option. but i think pushing it would still be a tad easier? its a fairly technical trail, i myself want a bike heavier than 28(that's just preference though). the trail has hundreds of like 8-10 inch drops, so i just lift up the front tire on the HAB, not too bad. its just a slow/steady/long pace up the mountain. i stash 2 water bottles on the way up so even if i run out of water up top, i have some for later in the ride. (and makes load lighter)

I have done quite a bit of backpacking in the Grand Canyon with up to 40 lbs.(I weigh 150 lbs) its really not that bad....you get yourself some hiking poles (for balance) and you are good to go!

The weight is on the hips, not on your shoulders (like a backpack).....

You can also remove both tires and strap them directly behind the bike so you are not bashing them and for better balance.

I'm really curious now....I'm gonna go test this at a local trail and compare the effort/time vs. pushing the bike up

[Evil Chocula]

Originally Posted by mechmann

i would like to do this ride, but it won't be till next winter for sure. i don't currently have the right bike..

LOL.... dude, don't you have like 10 bikes?

[dft]

Originally Posted by cjwally

dft, would it be just rediculous to do this trail on a Niner Sir9? Hardcore or rediculous? But, by the time the snow melts up there, I may be riding a Lenz Behemoth or Lunchbox....

I am interested in joining you next time....Shoot me a PM when you start getting things together...

Craig, I think Justin may be referring to the 8000' hike a bike ride... If not, I thought the Sir9 was the perfect bike to ride for the PCE.

yea it would be possible, but i sure would want some suspension. there are some kinda steep chunk roller sections, and lots of small drops (1 foot) on it. its just more enjoyable with a little slacker geometry. we will be doing it in march. for a few weeks before i do rides with lots of HAB for training.

ps. if you could take the tram up, hit the peak for another 2000, then you would have a 10,000 descent in 16-17 miles, that would be one of the greatest descents in the world. (still is totally epic). as my friends know, i live for huge vertical rides and steeps/drops also.

[cjwally]

Originally Posted by dft

yea it would be possible, but i sure would want some suspension. there are some kinda steep chunk roller sections, and lots of small drops (1 foot) on it. its just more enjoyable with a little slacker geometry. we will be doing it in march. for a few weeks before i do rides with lots of HAB for training.

ps. if you could take the tram up, hit the peak for another 2000, then you would have a 10,000 descent in 16-17 miles, that would be one of the greatest descents in the world. (still is totally epic). as my friends know, i live for huge vertical rides and steeps/drops also.

Keep me posted for the ride in March...I am definately interested in joining ya.

[deja vu]

hey dt, do you think the backpack would work out on this trail? I am wondering if the bike would hit rocks and stuff on the way up since it overhangs to the side and it looks like there are lots of boulders on the trail. Also, since such a long HAB, would it be just plain painful? Interesting idea though, I used to have one of those too! Definitely would want to try it out before the trip. (pv)

[MTBMaven]

dft you are amazing. I hike that trail years ago. Started at like 10PM and finished near sunrise. I can imagine trying to bike down it. Then again I have bike down some trails in the Angeles that are pretty hard to bike up. But that is bad a$$

[VTVic]

Originally Posted by dft

that was me.

I remember reading that thread as well. You're definitely a bad @ss. I'll wait for your RR

[Pain Freak]

You guys don't know Tom, he's a sicko!

[epicriderat]

Count me in. I need to do this ride.

[evdog]

Was a great ride! Nice meeting you guys and thanks to Craig & Craig for the shuttle up and to all for showing me the trail. Had been waiting for the chance to ride this one for ages and it didn't disappoint. Hopefully next time it won't be so windy - have never been that cold in my life... I got blown right over twice and blown into more than a few prickly bushes. All in all an epic ride and one of the more challenging ones I've done... Unfortunately I can't make it on the 23rd, but I will definitely be there again.

~Evan

I have a few good pics... unfortunately they're all too big to post here so check them out in the photos section:

http://www.socaltrailriders.org/gall...hp?photo=12607

[Geronimo]

Please post this ride in the future, that trail looks sweet. I remember the original post on empty beer. I think it said something like Iron Mountain on steroids for 8000' . 11 mile h-a-b sounds like a blast . I wojnder if Crash knows about this one, because it would make a great push-a-kona.