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Old 11-06-2007, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all these aren't my images but were passed along to me from someone else. They are owed photo credit but I don't want to mention their name so they don't get busted since the forest is still closed.

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Burnt cactus.

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Looking east toward the flagppole at the top of the Luge. It appears flags are still flying.

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View from the flagpole. The Luge drops away to the right.

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The Luge. Note in the foreground a very tough Yucca plant that will probably go as if nothing happened.

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Farther down the Luge. It looks like some of the wetter brush in the canyon bottom may have been spared.

The destruction shown in these images breaks my heart but in a sick way look interesting to ride since you can see the trail flow in ways you couldn't before.

Let's hope and pray for a series of slow, soaking rains so the forest can recover in good fashion and not wash away all at once.

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Old 11-06-2007, 08:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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thanks for sharing John, that is some serious devastation...hopefully one day when we're there enjoying the greenery we'll this will just be a memory
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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First of all these aren't my images but were passed along to me from someone else. They are owed photo credit but I don't want to mention their name so they don't get busted since the forest is still closed.

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Burnt cactus.

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Looking east toward the flagppole at the top of the Luge. It appears flags are still flying.

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View from the flagpole. The Luge drops away to the right.

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The Luge. Note in the foreground a very tough Yucca plant that will probably go as if nothing happened.

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Farther down the Luge. It looks like some of the wetter brush in the canyon bottom may have been spared.

The destruction shown in these images breaks my heart but in a sick way look interesting to ride since you can see the trail flow in ways you couldn't before.

Let's hope and pray for a series of slow, soaking rains so the forest can recover in good fashion and not wash away all at once.

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Old 11-06-2007, 08:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow chilling pics. Especially to see the flag still there gives me goosebumps.

I still find it hard to believe that the Luge was once a fireroad.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thanks for sharing John, that is some serious devastation...hopefully one day when we're there enjoying the greenery we'll this will just be a memory
that whole area behind Cooks went up in flames in the early 90's. Some hillbilly was shooting his guns and torched it all the way to Old Camp.

The Fire fighters or ?? dozed the trail and you could not ride it because of the deep powder.

This time the trail is in unchanged except for the folage being gone.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the pics John. That really $uck$ ar$e! check this out:

Before and after, maybe someone can photo shop the before shot and lighten it.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I miss the Luge... I hope it recovers soon. How long before it's open again? A couple months?
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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WOW. Thats pretty mad.
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I only got to ride the luge for the first time earlier this year.... I'm glad to have seen the before.... it is a bummer, but life goes on and we'll keep riding, right?
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A good source says the forest will re-open for this weekend, but obviously check with the USFS first before heading out.

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Old 11-06-2007, 09:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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A good source says the forest will re-open for this weekend, but obviously check with the USFS first before heading out.



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I called today and I was told that only a portion of the forest will re-open. They won't make an official ruling on which areas till Friday afternoon.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for the pics. I rode the Luge on the Friday before the fires were started there. I'll probably be dead and buried before it looks the same again!

Any leads on catching the mofo(s) that started the Santiago fire?
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Thanks for the pics John. That really $uck$ ar$e! check this out:

Before and after, maybe someone can photo shop the before shot and lighten it.
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sad to see......but proud to see the flag still flying.....that's a good sign and even more of a reason we should get out there and rebuild (once it's open). See ya with the shovels!
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Thanks John. Weird that the pics almost line up.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thanks for the very sad pictures. I really miss the Whiting-Luge route. What I'm really wondering is if that little notebook is still there at the flagpole. Did the mystery photographer make it up there to check?
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:41 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Here are some more pics of the Santiago Truck Trail after the fire. (FYI.. I can't take credit for any of these pics except the first two.. the Mrs. found all the other pics on a local trail running blog. Apparently the guy who writes the blog works for the register.. thus the ability to access the trail)

Not sure if all of these have been posted before or not...

The STT has been drastically transformed all the way up to old camp. I think this bit of text from the blog (where I pilfered the pics) says it all: :"[FONT=Arial]the fire basically torched the first five miles to Old Camp. The last three miles have been transformed into a freshly bulldozed fireroad on which a bus easily can travel -- all the way to the fire pit at Old Camp[/FONT]."



Anywhoo.. here goes.


Here is a shot looking east onto the santiago truck trial from about 2/3 of the way up Modjeska grade.






The entrance to the STT.







This is apparently about a mile up the STT where the damage is really bad. Here is what is left of some of the cacti





This is a section somewhere below the flag... this shot is unreal. There is nothing left






Looking back down on the first 1/3 of the STT




The flag pole is still there.. not sure where the flag is.





Looks like the journal survived





A shot of the foschek fire retardent stuff dropped on the trail




This looks like the area near the climb just above the luge... this is freakin surreal....




Judging by the terrain.. this looks like the section just beyond the climb above the luge where the STT hops onto the other side of a ridge and parallels the upper end of modjeska canyon.




Apparently the fire caused a lot of terrain instability (duh.. all the vegetation is gone including roots) which in turn caused a lot of loose rock to end up on the trail in many spots.




Apparently the top section of the STT didn't burn but.... has been plowed. Here is a shot of the upper section that used to have a sweet chaparral canopy. The single track is plowed under along with all the vegetation.
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