any of you guys use these
just got my joplin 4 and need to affix its cable to the top tube
currently held in place by zip ties... dont like the look.
have any of you guys used stick on cable guides? are they reliable?
here are two of em that i found... anyone use these?
Jagwire Alloy Stick-On Housing Guide
Alligator The Gripper III Stick-on Cable Guides
or is more reliable to use zip tie with cable guide such as
Alligator The Gripper Zip-Tie
or any other recommendations would be appreciated?