Lance: The Official Lance Armstrong Thread

[denmother]

Wow, he is human after all???

BTW, I asked the mods to merge this thread with the ongoing one: Lance: The Official Lance Armstrong Thread

Healing vibes to you Mr. Armstrong.

Originally Posted by shudder

Broken collarbone. Yeeesh.

http://velonews.com/article/89531/

- shud

See he is still partially super-human:

..."In a Twitter posting, team manager Johan Bruyneel said Armstrong suffered a "Clean collarbone fracture without complications. Should be fast recovery."....


A photo from Spanish TV

[mfoga]

I would like to know what they define as a fast recovery. If they mean when he can ride again, with much higher risk then yes fast if they wait for it to heal not so fast.

[denmother]

In Europe, the equestrian's have theirs pinned so that they can go back to competing right away. In Marla Streb's case, they just cut it out since they told her it serves no purpose anyway.

[sperminator]

Velonews said he should be race ready in about 4 weeks time.

[Reedster]

Originally Posted by denmother

In Europe, the equestrian's have theirs pinned so that they can go back to competing right away. In Marla Streb's case, they just cut it out since they told her it serves no purpose anyway.

I know that sometimes they will also extract bone marrow from somewhere else on the body and add it to the break. It really helps stimulate the new bone growth.

I know that a few years back I broke my collarbone the same day that Paulo Salvodelli broke his. He won the Giro d'Italia before my doctor cleared me to ride. So they are clearly doing something that promotes fast healing.

Best wishes to Lance.

~R

[mfoga]

Originally Posted by denmother

In Europe, the equestrian's have theirs pinned so that they can go back to competing right away. In Marla Streb's case, they just cut it out since they told her it serves no purpose anyway.

Remove it, What? No purpose, what?

The collar bone is quite important. It holds the scapula (shoulder bone in back) in place. The humerus (upper arm) is connected to the scapula. With out it you arm would have no skeletal connection to the body.

Originally Posted by Reedster

I know that sometimes they will also extract bone marrow from somewhere else on the body and add it to the break. It really helps stimulate the new bone growth.

I know that a few years back I broke my collarbone the same day that Paulo Salvodelli broke his. He won the Giro d'Italia before my doctor cleared me to ride. So they are clearly doing something that promotes fast healing.

Best wishes to Lance.

~R

Once the ends have healed over you will fell no pain and could do anything you want but the risk of worse injury(punctured lung) is very high if you were to fall on it again. I was snowboarding before mine was healed and still had no connection between the bones.

[Kid A]

clearly he took a dive so he didnt have to face the wrath of Donkey (Brian) at leadville

[dirtvert]

Originally Posted by 2wheel_lee

Don't worry, I'm kidding!

I believe Lance is innocent (except didn't he cheat on his ex-wife?). I don't think he would ever use anything that he could be caught for.

or use anything once they started testing for it...

EDIT: i'm looking forward to when mustard is on the banned list. damn dopers.

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by dirtvert

or use anything once they started testing for it...

ah...now you're reading what I'm saying!
But not "once they start testing for it" but before there is a known way of testing for it.

But...we all use something that may be considered performance enhancing (we all eat protein, right?), so everything is fair until it's determined illegal, right?

[dirtmistress]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3-5gS7YbOM

[Abui]

Amazing details about Lance's collarbone surgery.

[denmother]

I keep up with Lance on Facebook. I love how any post he makes, gets at least 100 comments. All I know is he loves to eat Pizza with his kids!!!!

Originally Posted by Abui

Amazing details about Lance's collarbone surgery.

Wow, I wonder how much this would cost us mere mortals???

[osmarandsara]

Originally Posted by denmother

I keep up with Lance on Facebook. I love how any post he makes, gets at least 100 comments. All I know is he loves to eat Pizza with his kids!!!!




Wow, I wonder how much this would cost us mere mortals???

APRIL FOOLS!!!!!

[Abui]

Shhhhh!

[BoingBoing]

LMAO: "The inForm CarbonClavicle has greater shock absorption, greater impact strength and a greater tensile strength—while being grams lighter than the OEM bone."

[Pho'dUp]

Catch this:

"Future sponsorship plans include full support and pre-emptive upgrades for the full Trek-Livestrong U23 team. “These guys are early in their careers, and if averages apply to the team, we think we can prevent about 10 or more future breaks across the 12 members of the team,” adds Clinton."

Trek team is going bionic and all getting those carbon fiber collabones. I'm waiting for the carbon fiber skulls so we can all go helmet-less!

[vlad]

These Frenchies are just out to get him. What else will they think of.

http://www.rbaction.net/fly.aspx?lay...id=69&cid=1398

I hope he races the Tour and kicks their a$$ big time. And give the finger to every French racer as he passes them on towards victory. And then buys the ASO and renames the Tour into the "Tour de Texas in the Middle of F'n France"!

[Bergsteiger]

Lance Versus France (All Over Again)
By Bob Roll


Lance Armstrong has made international headlines once again. No it wasn’t about anything race related or an update on his collarbone injury or even anything to do with his cancer initiatives; instead it was about his “behavior” during a recent unannounced drug test on March 17.

It is not a surprise to anyone that Lance Armstrong and the French have once again agreed to disagree. At issue this time is an alleged example of misconduct on Lance’s part during a surprise out of competition collection of samples used presumably to determine if any doping products are found in an athletes system. Since his return to the sport Lance has provided 24 anti-doping samples. The first 23 proceeded without incident and more importantly without any doping products found in Lance’s system. The one difference between the others and the 24th anti-doping procedure was that it was the first one conducted in France.

During Lance’s recent training excursion in France he was visited by an employee of the AFLD. The AFLD is the French laboratory itself that tests the samples of athletes’ urine, blood, and apparently now hair follicles. During this test for the first time that anyone is aware Lance was asked to provide a sample of his hair. Since the governing bodies such as WADA and the UCI normally conduct the tests there was some confusion as to the validity of this person’s credentials. As soon as his credentials were verified the tests were conducted without any impropriety whatsoever. Most importantly and strangely least reported was that all of the samples provided by Lance were found to be negative, meaning there are absolutely no illegal substances in Lance Armstrong’s body. The headlines however tell a much more intriguing and scintillating tail.

The French now claim that Lance stalled the testing procedure. Lance fired back today and explained that he asked if it was ok to take a shower while the person’s credentials were checked out with his team manager Johan Bruyneel. Lance came out after his shower and the test took about an hour and a half. There was a form that asked the tester to state if there were any irregularities or further observation fro the testing process and to that he wrote “no”. But now that the tests have comeback negative they are now saying that this 20 minutes delay should be investigated.

The fact that Lance Armstrong has passed 24 anti-doping tests with zero evidence of many doping products does not sell newspapers as well as inaccurate and misleading headlines. Nobody would be surprised that Lance has been singled out by the French for persecution. But what is amazing is that the French continue to portray Lance’s cycling endeavors as anything less than 100 percent authentic legal and above reproach. What’s always amazed me is that in spite of many thousands of negative doping tests and absolutely no evidence that Lance has ever doped the French continue to promote an environment of suspicion and intrigue. As all sports struggle for credibility I’m amazed that the overwhelming evidence that Lance has never cheated is disregarded in favor of innuendo, half-truths, suspicion, and outright lies.

One has to wonder how much patience a person like Lance will continue to have when the people that run the biggest and best bike race in the world will continue this environment of injustice specifically targeted at Lance himself. Although the initial headlines could lead one to suspect that Lance is once again the central figure in our tragic drama about doping in sports nothing is further from the truth. Hopefully once the facts are revealed and the dust settles down it will be obvious that no inappropriate behavior was shown by Lance in his latest encounter with the French anti-doping authorities. Will the actual facts restore the credibility of cycling? The problem is that’s rather doubtful and the French continue to tolerate a level of unawareness for fair play and justice that is very contrary to the American ideal. In the meantime lets hope that the truth is revealed, the cheaters get caught, and that the laws of are applied consistently and with respect to the procedures and protocols in place for all athletes. It doesn’t seem as if the French have reached the same conclusion just yet. Let’s hope Lance’s patience will outlast the French authorities obvious suspicions and systems of mismanagements and poor judgment. For us Paris-Roubaix is right around the corner and another showdown between quickstep and the whole world. Perhaps newspapers will be sold based on the racing rather than scurrilous headlines.

I love France and Europe as a whole, its where I was born but there has got to be an end to this unfair bull#$%.
Guilty until proven innocent is not the way to treat professional athletes.

[dirtmistress]

The debate on this matter is very interesting at Road Bike Review.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=168870

I am a Lance fan and am glad he is back but this whole escapade by he and Johan certainly does not look good!

Lance should have erred on the side of caution and not gone to take a shower until the testers validity could be confirmed!
You are not allowed to leave the testers sight once he lays his eyes upon you and nobody should know this better than Lance!

The tester has apparently been around for 15 years and trains new testers. According to them, he would never say 'sure, go hop in the shower'.

So although I am a fan, I think Lance often times shoots off without thinking!

[Burner]

Showergate closed, no penalties.