Who got air lifted out of Laguna today?

[OMR]

Ranger Ed at Aliso had not heard about the crash & said he'd look into it and let me know the particulars.

[mtbmichael]

Originally Posted by kanga

The statistics are showing that broken necks, when the chinguard hits the ground/snow/tree, are more common with a full face.

yeah, the chin part would cause hyperextension of the neck when that part slams into the ground, but without the helmet there is a possibility of a broken chin/jaw, missing teeth, missing part of tongue along with a broken neck.

[kanga]

Originally Posted by mtbmichael

yeah, the chin part would cause hyperextension of the neck when that part slams into the ground, but without the helmet there is a possibility of a broken chin/jaw, missing teeth, missing part of tongue along with a broken neck.

I know... it's a dilemma. Broken neck and pretty face, or f'ed up face and still able to walk, or broken neck and f'ed up face. They're different points along a spectrum of risk we all must decide for ourselves.

Except for the really generous ones...organ donors... we saw three descending today while doing trailwork on Middle Merrill... without helmets.

[mtbmichael]

Originally Posted by kanga

I know... it's a dilemma. Broken neck and pretty face, or f'ed up face and still able to walk, or broken neck and f'ed up face. They're different points along a spectrum of risk we all must decide for ourselves.

Except for the really generous ones...organ donors... we saw three descending today while doing trailwork on Middle Merrill... without helmets.

hope the guy is able to recover fully. well i guess there is always surgery for fixing your face if your face is messed up.

on a somewhat related note, back a few months ago when there was insane surf along newport, there was a patient at the hospital i work at who checked in because he hit some rocks while surfing and was partially paralyzed. Ironically, few months prior he sold his tracer because he thought mtb was too dangerous.

[movingmountain]

I saw the bike a KHS. The cops were trying to get it in their squad car. They couldn't get the front wheel off, no quick release/ thru axel. Hope the guy is OK. The rescue guys said a possible broken neck, but he was able to move his arms and feet. He said the guy look to be in his forties.

[thephat]

I saw a blue Iron Horse MK lying around the scene unatended, but I gues the injured party was on a KHS?

[kanga]

Originally Posted by mtbmichael

on a somewhat related note, back a few months ago when there was insane surf along newport, there was a patient at the hospital i work at who checked in because he hit some rocks while surfing and was partially paralyzed. Ironically, few months prior he sold his tracer because he thought mtb was too dangerous.

On my last surf trip to Tahiti two of our crew ended up with stitches, and two from another boat ended up in hospital. One of our guys got knocked unconscious and was underwater, leash wrapped around coral, bleeding from the head, and it was only the fact that his board floated back up without him that we realized and got to him quick enough to prevent a tragedy.

For my next boat trip I'll have a Gath in tow.... I was wishing I had one then. All I got was a few scars. (and the best waves I've ever ridden!)

Back on topic....I haven't seen whether the victim was wearing an FF or regular helmet..... still hoping and waiting for good news. When one of our own goes down (even if attempting something they shouldn't have) the statistic moves a notch in the naysayer's favor, and hurts us all.

[NitrOx]

Originally Posted by thephat

I saw a blue Iron Horse MK lying around the scene unatended, but I gues the injured party was on a KHS?

Apparently, the blue Iron Horse was the bike of the injured rider according to an eye witness

[surlygal]

Originally Posted by NitrOx

Apparently, the blue Iron Horse was the bike of the injured rider according to an eye witness

NEVERMIND>>..it's already been posted here, by the same rider who posted on the other thread

[G-Ride]

I'm seeing this thread subject line all too often it seems. Not sure where the crash happened, but it doesn't really matter. It can happen anywhere to anyone, regardless of equipment or armor, even on a trail you may think is easy that you've been on perhaps hundreds of times. A couple of years ago, a friend of mine, who until that point raced semi-pro DH, broke his neck coming down Lynx. He ended up ok (as far as a broken neck goes), but it really made me think, and it has certainly made me ride a little smarter since. Best of luck to the guy who crashed, I hope it isn't too serious. Someone please update if you hear any news.

[tkblazer]

hmm blue IH, Dino brown?

[NitrOx]

Originally Posted by G-Ride

A couple of years ago, a friend of mine, who until that point raced semi-pro DH, broke his neck coming down Lynx.

Agreed and Lynx is deceiving as it has taken down a number of good riders.

[OMR]

The report of a mountain biker down on Telonics Trail came in false.I contacted the Laguna Beach Fire and OC Fire Authority dispatch. No matching records were found for Friday or Saturday.
It's very interesting that there is no offical report on this... just a lot of second hand information to date. Does anybody know any facts for sure???

[hoovermd]

Interesting... there definitely was a heli that came in Saurday AM.
I was at TOW and the cops were asking us to clear a path for the Rescue guys coming in on the heli.
1 ambo and at least 2 fire trucks from what I saw.

Definitely seemed to be over on the Telonics side although I didn't stick around to lookee-lou

Originally Posted by OMR

The report of a mountain biker down on Telonics Trail came in false.I contacted the Laguna Beach Fire and OC Fire Authority dispatch. No matching records were found for Friday or Saturday.
It's very interesting that there is no offical report on this... just a lot of second hand information to date. Does anybody know any facts for sure???

[Evil Chocula]

Originally Posted by OMR

The report of a mountain biker down on Telonics Trail came in false.I contacted the Laguna Beach Fire and OC Fire Authority dispatch. No matching records were found for Friday or Saturday.
It's very interesting that there is no offical report on this... just a lot of second hand information to date. Does anybody know any facts for sure???

This sounds like some X-Files sh!t to me!

[UR2KLOS]

Originally Posted by OMR

The report of a mountain biker down on Telonics Trail came in false.I contacted the Laguna Beach Fire and OC Fire Authority dispatch. No matching records were found for Friday or Saturday.
It's very interesting that there is no offical report on this... just a lot of second hand information to date. Does anybody know any facts for sure???

Maybe all of our prayers were answered?

[2wheel_lee]

Originally Posted by OMR

The report of a mountain biker down on Telonics Trail came in false.

That would make sense. There is no such trail as Telonics.

This comes very close to home to me. When I was 16, I went over the bars while practicing on my BMX bike. I was taken to the hospital (I dont' remember any of that). My left wrist was broken (2nd of 4 times), my left ear was torn off (no one practiced with helmets back then), and my C5 was broken with a chunk of the bone wedged against the spinal cord. He said that because of the way my head bent back upon landing, if it would have gone back any further, I could have easily been paralyzed - or worse. I was a bit scared to ride and race anymore, and so I stopped riding within the next year or so.

The doctor said it was too risky to go in and remove or relocate the part, so he said we'll just see how it heals by itself. He said that even if it does heal ok, I'd likely have neck problems when I was 40. Well, that was a long time ago. I'll be 40 this year, and so far, it's ok.

When I was about 25 or so, I really missed riding bikes, and I re-evaluated why I stopped. I concluded that I shouldn't stop doing something because I was scared, and so I picked up riding again. The story has a newer chapter starting about 2 years ago, but I'll sum it up and say that I'm glad I'm back riding again. But having said that, there is still a great amount of fear lingering in the back of my mind. I have most all of the protection gear I can use, but one of the leatt neck braces is looking more and more appealing.

http://www.leatt-brace.com/index.php?page_id=3&id=3

I pray that this story is a false report.

[J_Sims]

Originally Posted by NitrOx

Agreed and Lynx is deceiving as it has taken down a number of good riders.

So it the Fully Loop

[gregspangler]

Originally Posted by thephat

I have a bad feeling that I recognized the bike...

Someone said, "broken neck".

I work at OCFA and can check to see the validity of the claim for an airlift out of the area on 4/8. Our units would have most likely been the responding engines and copter, but wont be able to give much detail about the rider or injury due to HIPAA.

Stay tuned.