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Steven Jackson · 10-23-2007, 03:38 PM

My first ride was on the Loop but I seen lots of sweet piktures from Whiteing Ranch. I was gonna ride their but my Pinto won't make it up the toll road.

Waldo · 10-23-2007, 03:53 PM

From what we saw before evacuating, I'm pretty sure that nearly all of Whiting is burned. I watched as the Serrano side burned, and from the reports and smoke patterns, I'm pretty sure most/all of the Borrego side also went. It burned up and over all of Dreaded Hill as well.

RIP Whiting Ranch.
Now lets hope for steady, gentle rains this winter so the recovery can begin.

ShugaMama · 10-23-2007, 04:57 PM

We will miss this place, but we look forward to helping to re-build when appropriate. I am also happy no lives were lost. Now... what to do with the arsonist once he's caught...

Permagrin · 10-23-2007, 05:21 PM

I'm speechless, for once. I've hiked Whiting for years, used to go there alone "to get away" and could close my eyes and not hear a thing but the trees. I know it'll grow back in time, but it's so sad to think about all the animals that may not have made it. What a loss, but thankfully no lives.

ambraaah · 10-23-2007, 07:09 PM

Pics of Whiting lap on Sunday, October 21st

Me and Guero:

Tuesday October 23rd

KeepsWhatHappens · 10-23-2007, 07:11 PM

I did see one picture Royster71 emailed me that showed the beginning of the trail at Whiting still looking green.

Then in another shot it showed the Borrego canyon sides (up by the houses) toasted but still pretty green down in the bottom. My hope is that the fire raced through there and left the green riparian habitat somewwhat intact.

Only time will tell...

KeepsWhatHappens

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Originally Posted by Waldo

From what we saw before evacuating, I'm pretty sure that nearly all of Whiting is burned. I watched as the Serrano side burned, and from the reports and smoke patterns, I'm pretty sure most/all of the Borrego side also went. It burned up and over all of Dreaded Hill as well.

RIP Whiting Ranch.
Now lets hope for steady, gentle rains this winter so the recovery can begin.

Waldo · 10-23-2007, 07:25 PM

I drove past the Portola entrance around 6pm: The sides are charred while there's still some of the brush right at the entrance, though that was still smoldering.

I'm happy to say that it looks like many of the old trees along trails in the Serrano side are intact. Hopefully this thing hopped around down in the depths of those canyons and left some areas untouched.

Cautious optimism will be my approach.

bikelmo · 10-23-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KeepsWhatHappens

Whiting is SHARE territory. The Warriors Society handles the Trabuco District of the Cleveland National Forest.

KeepsWhatHappens

Thanks for clearing that up!

mazer75 · 10-23-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Waldo

I drove past the Portola entrance around 6pm: The sides are charred while there's still some of the brush right at the entrance, though that was still smoldering.

I'm happy to say that it looks like many of the old trees along trails in the Serrano side are intact. Hopefully this thing hopped around down in the depths of those canyons and left some areas untouched.

Cautious optimism will be my approach.

Thanks for the update, I'm glad to hear some semi-positive news.

I would also like to take part in any replanting effort that takes happens later on.

Right now I'm just pulling for the firefighters and the people who've been displaced by the fires. Hope everyone is alright.

roadkillross · 10-23-2007, 08:27 PM

bret, that picture has some steez to it. horrible to here about all the trails, including this one. there are so many of these that i havent ridden, and may not get the chance

KonaDupee · 10-24-2007, 05:40 AM

WALDO, I hope you guys are safe and that your house escaped any damage. However, if you need a place to store/safeguard ANYTHING, just let me know.

Mi casa (err, garage *garaje*) es su casa ("garaje*).

CeeDubb · 10-24-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ShugaMama

We will miss this place, but we look forward to helping to re-build when appropriate. I am also happy no lives were lost. Now... what to do with the arsonist once he's caught...

Sadly...I heard that there was one killed and 12 injured.

I don't know the details, but I read it on the crawl when watching the news yesterday.

Whoever it was...RIP. And to the injured...Get Well.

Abui · 10-24-2007, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CeeDubb

Sadly...I heard that there was one killed and 12 injured.

I don't know the details, but I read it on the crawl when watching the news yesterday.

Whoever it was...RIP. And to the injured...Get Well.

There was a correction on TV today, there was not a death.

CeeDubb · 10-24-2007, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Caveman

There was a correction on TV today, there was not a death.

That's good news. So my well wishes go out to the injured, the displaced, and the firefighters working 24 hour shifts.

northshore · 10-24-2007, 10:35 AM

Whiting was my first ride when I first moved into the O.C. area

. I've only been a resident of Foothill for a short time and it's sad to see this go up in smoke due to some a-holes negative actions

(may a mountain lion have this person for dinner) Either way I am down to help out where I can to hopefully one day restore the trail to what it once was.

foofighter · 10-24-2007, 11:46 AM

wife took these this morning

slowSSer · 10-24-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by foofighter

wife took these this morning

damn.

glenn ranch road is reopened?

L8 APEKS · 10-24-2007, 01:32 PM

Doesn't look as bad as I anticipated so far. If you have any more updates/photos, keep them coming!

Who should we look to for habitat restoration once the park is re-opened? Will trail repair/maintenance be something that is prohibited by the general MTB public and limited to County employees, or will there be a way we can help out?

slowSSer · 10-24-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L8 APEKS

Doesn't look as bad as I anticipated so far. If you have any more updates/photos, keep them coming!

Who should we look to for habitat restoration once the park is re-opened? Will trail repair/maintenance be something that is prohibited by the general MTB public and limited to County employees, or will there be a way we can help out?

check with your local SHARE/Warriors guys. they might know more. I'm waiting to see something on the warriors page to commit to.

brownlandshark · 10-25-2007, 04:33 PM

Warriors do a great job. Thanks guys. Whiting will recover and be as fun as ever waiting for new mwmories to be made and new mountain bikers to discover it.

10-23-2007, 03:38 PM	#41 (permalink)
Steven Jackson My loop, my rules!	My first ride was on the Loop but I seen lots of sweet piktures from Whiteing Ranch. I was gonna ride their but my Pinto won't make it up the toll road. __________________ STEVENS ARE THE BEST!

10-23-2007, 03:53 PM	#42 (permalink)
Waldo Lebowski Urban Achiever	From what we saw before evacuating, I'm pretty sure that nearly all of Whiting is burned. I watched as the Serrano side burned, and from the reports and smoke patterns, I'm pretty sure most/all of the Borrego side also went. It burned up and over all of Dreaded Hill as well. RIP Whiting Ranch. Now lets hope for steady, gentle rains this winter so the recovery can begin. __________________ Please Don't Poach! ----------------------------------------------- "The ride back should be much easier." -Eric Foltz

10-23-2007, 04:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
ShugaMama Senior Member	Very sad, indeed... We will miss this place, but we look forward to helping to re-build when appropriate. I am also happy no lives were lost. Now... what to do with the arsonist once he's caught...

10-23-2007, 05:21 PM	#44 (permalink)
Permagrin Hard landing comin' up!	I'm speechless, for once. I've hiked Whiting for years, used to go there alone "to get away" and could close my eyes and not hear a thing but the trees. I know it'll grow back in time, but it's so sad to think about all the animals that may not have made it. What a loss, but thankfully no lives. __________________ Wild animals never kill for sport. Man is the only one to whom the torture and death of his fellow creatures is amusing in itself. - James A. Froude (1818-1894)

10-23-2007, 07:09 PM	#45 (permalink)
ambraaah newbie	Pics of Whiting lap on Sunday, October 21st Me and Guero: Tuesday October 23rd __________________ shaaah braaah

10-23-2007, 07:25 PM	#47 (permalink)
Waldo Lebowski Urban Achiever	I drove past the Portola entrance around 6pm: The sides are charred while there's still some of the brush right at the entrance, though that was still smoldering. I'm happy to say that it looks like many of the old trees along trails in the Serrano side are intact. Hopefully this thing hopped around down in the depths of those canyons and left some areas untouched. Cautious optimism will be my approach. __________________ Please Don't Poach! ----------------------------------------------- "The ride back should be much easier." -Eric Foltz

10-23-2007, 08:27 PM	#50 (permalink)
roadkillross STR Veteran	bret, that picture has some steez to it. horrible to here about all the trails, including this one. there are so many of these that i havent ridden, and may not get the chance __________________ Offroadie-"I ride a fixed gear, but I'm no hipster." dirttorpedo- "i like the runs..........:

10-24-2007, 05:40 AM	#51 (permalink)
KonaDupee Soon to be Konaless Dupee	WALDO, I hope you guys are safe and that your house escaped any damage. However, if you need a place to store/safeguard ANYTHING, just let me know. Mi casa (err, garage garaje) es su casa ("garaje). __________________ Climbing is* its own reward!**

10-24-2007, 10:35 AM	#55 (permalink)
northshore	Whiting was my first ride when I first moved into the O.C. area . I've only been a resident of Foothill for a short time and it's sad to see this go up in smoke due to some a-holes negative actions (may a mountain lion have this person for dinner) Either way I am down to help out where I can to hopefully one day restore the trail to what it once was. __________________ Hawaiian Island Creations Make a difference: www.imba.com

10-24-2007, 11:46 AM	#56 (permalink)
foofighter Ride More Talk Less	wife took these this morning Attached Thumbnails __________________ On Sabatical - Out Riding SOLD - 09 Specialized Roubaix Comp 10 Specialized Tarmac SL3 on order 09 Specialized Epic Expert Carbon

10-24-2007, 01:32 PM	#58 (permalink)
L8 APEKS ...needs a bike!	Doesn't look as bad as I anticipated so far. If you have any more updates/photos, keep them coming! Who should we look to for habitat restoration once the park is re-opened? Will trail repair/maintenance be something that is prohibited by the general MTB public and limited to County employees, or will there be a way we can help out? __________________ ...currently seeking a bike! If you have an XC F/S bike, size L, in the sub-32 lb. and sub-$1000 available, please let me know!

10-25-2007, 04:33 PM	#60 (permalink)
brownlandshark Senior Member	Warriors do a great job. Thanks guys. Whiting will recover and be as fun as ever waiting for new mwmories to be made and new mountain bikers to discover it.

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