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Old 06-10-2008, 10:11 AM   #21 (permalink)
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dubjay do you mind if I further derail your thread by asking what everyone has in mind for Sunday recovery??
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30 min recovery spin...stretch....do my best to avoid massive amounts of booze...then taking monday off entirely!
Hmm..what about the free kegs of beer they'll have available after the race. That might mess with recovery plans.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:17 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Nope - don't mind.



Hmm..what about the free kegs of beer they'll have available after the race. That might mess with recovery plans.
Unless Jason plans on hiding them or not opening them up til 8 ~ there might not be much left
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:01 AM   #23 (permalink)
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+1 to finding your lactate threshold and building your zones off of that.

when i first started training, zone 1 felt pretty dang slow...but as your fitness improves...you will be able to maintain higher speeds at a lower heart rate. so now....it doesn't feel so slow anymore, i can actually push a little and still stay low.

keep working....but zone 1 training is effective. good training is a balancing act between volume, intensity, and recovery. too much of one, and the others will suffer.
Word. For long rides and runs where I'm working on my endurance base, I stay almost exclusively in zone 2. It gets very challenging to stay in that gray zone: my body wants to go either faster or slower than that.

HRM's are a good tool, but your HR will lag behind your effort slightly. Just keep that in mind when training.

If you want, I'm looking for a few "Guinea Pigs" to try my hand at coaching. 92-ser is my first victim,...er athlete. No fee since I'm short on coaching experience.

Check out the link Luke put up, Joe Friel is amazing; I had the pleasure of attending one of his "talks" on endurance training. Stupifying how much he knows about endurance training.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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If you want, I'm looking for a few "Guinea Pigs" to try my hand at coaching. 92-ser is my first victim,...er athlete. No fee since I'm short on coaching experience.
What exactly does this entail? Seems like with quite a few of us trying to push our own envelopes you'd get some takers!
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:21 AM   #25 (permalink)
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What exactly does this entail? Seems like with quite a few of us trying to push our own envelopes you'd get some takers!
You set cycling goals and I give you daily workouts based on your goals and current fitness levels. Simple, no?
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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You set cycling goals and I give you daily workouts based on your goals and current fitness levels. Simple, no?
Doesn't sound like it'd be difficult
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Doesn't sound like it'd be difficult
Consistency is key. Now I just need people to abuse!
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:51 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Consistency is key. Now I just need people to abuse!
Hit me up in email!
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:13 PM   #29 (permalink)
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On the way. Anyone else?
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
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On the way. Anyone else?
I guess I'll give it a shot. I'll PM you my email address.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Okay, Zippy, I'm considering getting the treatment too. PMd my email.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Okay, Zippy, I'm considering getting the treatment too. PMd my email.
Now all we need is to create a bike team
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:34 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Go easy on 'em bro!

Ehhh....what the hell, hill repeaaats...yayeee!!
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Go easy on 'em bro!

Ehhh....what the hell, hill repeaaats...yayeee!!
You know it! Haha!

Wait until I give them running workouts. Wha??
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'd say just get out and ride.
That's the best advice in that post and I agree completely! Allison, with all due respect, you're going to wear out your keyboard with all the other minutia

the more you enjoy your ride, the more you will "train". Pick rides that will naturally duplicate hill and speed intervals and free your mind of HR BS. Your conditioning will improve while you'r having masochistic fun.

an adage that might be apropos here is "keep it simple, stupid"
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:30 PM   #36 (permalink)
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You know it! Haha!

Wait until I give them running workouts. Wha??
"Yeah, Zippy... I did that running work out you gave me, sure..."

Meanwhile in blog-world...

"Today I went to Snow Summit and jumped and rode down loose dirt. It was fun. I didn't even use my Edge."

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Old 06-10-2008, 03:21 PM   #37 (permalink)
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an adage that might be apropos here is "keep it simple, stupid"
Very good point.................
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:33 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wait until I give them running workouts. Wha??
I was thinking of "volunteering" until I read that there was running involved. That's what ruins triathalons....
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:14 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Where locally (or how?) would you do the 30 minute TT? I don't know of anywhere that you wouldn't run into stop lights and be forced to slow down. Even on a bike path (like the one following 76, or SART) you have to watch out for others, and the one on 76 you'd have to stop and turn around.
Fiesta Island is where I did it. The place is perfect for the test. Low traffic loop, one way, flat. It's a little far from you though.

I used the lap function on my HRM. Ride for ten minutes, then hit lap.

I got all my information from Joe Friel's book: "The Cyclist's Training Bible."
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