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Old 08-22-2008, 07:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was going to post this here: Car for Sale

But didn't want to derail the thread.


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Lets not even get started on American made cars. Its jsut too much comedy.
Unions, and corrupt politics are responsible for the inability for the american auto industry to compete with it's foreign competitors. The 70's should have tought them a lesson to diversify their holdings and prepair themselves for the obvious energy crisis of the 21st century. The american economic boom of the 20th century was built on cheap oil and fossil fuels for energy. The government has let unions crush the manufacturers to the point of no return a long time ago. The majority of every dollar spent on an american vehicle goes to the pension and health care of it's employees and retirees. I suspect they have gotten by with strong truck and suv sales along with goverment subsidies. Yet at the same time the government will push them to end a labor strike with the union and throw them a bone that prolongs and secures their mediocrity. With the higher cost of oil the slower truck and suv sales are going to crush them. Also keep in mind that the cost of other fossil fuels are rising and the majority of electricity in the US comes via burning fossil fuels. So not only are their labor, healthcare,pention, and utilities/overhead increasing dramatically, but their sales are in rapid decline. IMO the finger can be pointed directly at the politicians that no longer support those who elected them into office, but rather those who contributed to their campaign.
We invented the automobile,and are the worlds largest consumer of them and can't manufacture them on our own soil for profit. I fear with NAFTA that what befalls the auto industry will trickle down. However I'm optimistic that when the US citizens hit our collective bottom democracy will rear it's head again and restore this country back to it's rightful place as the second greatest country on Earth.
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Amen brother!
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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this quote "IMO the finger can be pointed directly at the politicians that no longer support those who elected them into office, but rather those who contributed to their campaign." Probably says it all IMO.
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't have a clue what you just said, but I do know I need another drink!
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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why u even listen to that fool Keith B???? he always sounds drunk any dumm way!!!

yes I needds me a nother drink!! lol
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Old 08-22-2008, 07:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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We all NEED another drink. I'll listen to Keith because he's from the other side of the pond. Therefore, he's smarter then 80% of us by default, or at the least better educated.
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Okay, i will have another.... Damn, I have had way too much... oh well, lets all have more
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Another drink it is then
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Old 08-22-2008, 08:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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And I thought this was going to be about the needle dick that stole your pump

See what happens when you're a nice guy to a 29er rider.
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Old 08-22-2008, 09:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Keith's post seems to be off topic in that thread. Maybe the mods just missed it.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ok kids are in bed,my turn
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok kids are in bed,my turn
Awww jeez - here comes JOHNNY! I mean Danny. At least he's gotta type one handed (and not for the gross reason, pervs). Or is your arm a-healin'?

I agree that our auto industry is due for a tragic demise. Union workers in all categories IMO make WAAAAYYY too much money for being just average workers. Its like people working in the civil service - they pretty much can't be let go until they do something completely insane. My mom used to work for the city of Torrance street department. They had trash truck drivers that had serious vision impairment, etc, etc. Anyway, unions are whack. I understand why they started, but have spun way out of control. Production line workers installing shoddy door panels shouldn't be making 27 bucks an hour...
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah, Unions jumped the shark in like 1945...
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Awww jeez - here comes JOHNNY! I mean Danny. At least he's gotta type one handed (and not for the gross reason, pervs). Or is your arm a-healin'?

I agree that our auto industry is due for a tragic demise. Union workers in all categories IMO make WAAAAYYY too much money for being just average workers. Its like people working in the civil service - they pretty much can't be let go until they do something completely insane. My mom used to work for the city of Torrance street department. They had trash truck drivers that had serious vision impairment, etc, etc. Anyway, unions are whack. I understand why they started, but have spun way out of control. Production line workers installing shoddy door panels shouldn't be making 27 bucks an hour...
I didnt start it donny.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think you are in you wrong thread donny I do agree however.
Did you read the first post? Have another drink.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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oh you are harsh.
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